All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Quit the whingeing lads, we're not Irish. Naholo concussion doesn't automatically equal foul play. Reckon there is zero zilch nada chance O'Brien will be cited for that.
Well he has been. Doubt he'll get to play next week. A reckless swinging arm that concusses a player = take a rest son.
Any suspension for SOB will be the outrage of the week for B&I media. SH conspiracy and all that, reference will be made to Sam Cane's dark arts-at-speed brutalisation of Rob Henshaw later year.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@kev said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@Nepia almost agree but accidental doesn't matter nowadays. Contact to head with swinging arm resulting in concussion and player leaving the field. O'Brien is a wonderful player and clean as but shit happens and the rules are about cleaning up technique as much as dirty play
I actually can't see the swinging arm. Of four of us watching together last night, 2 could see the arm and 2 couldn't - we need a Green and Gold style breakdown ....
Look for the end on replay
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Hansen needs get really angry about this, I mean it is clearly a personal attack on him, in retaliation to him getting the Herald to post the clown pic of Gats.
UK tabloid The Sun has hit back after the All Blacks' shock 24-21 loss to the Lions by depicting coach Steve Hansen as a clown.
The retort comes after the Herald caricatured Lions coach Warren Gatland as a clown following their first test defeat to the All Blacks at Eden Park last weekend.
The Sun's image shows Gatland throwing a pie into the face of a red-nosed Hansen in a clown outfit with the headline "CLOWN JEWELS".
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11884910
Good, they've stooped to our level.
Moral low ground surrendered.
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haha, the dissection continues, UK press seem to be digging for a controversial statement (its been raining most of the day so stuck inside)
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/veitch-on-sport/audio/hansen-sbw-knows-he-made-a-mistake/
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@booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@kev said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@Nepia almost agree but accidental doesn't matter nowadays. Contact to head with swinging arm resulting in concussion and player leaving the field. O'Brien is a wonderful player and clean as but shit happens and the rules are about cleaning up technique as much as dirty play
I actually can't see the swinging arm. Of four of us watching together last night, 2 could see the arm and 2 couldn't - we need a Green and Gold style breakdown ....
Look for the end on replay
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Itoje's workrate helped the Lions - he was their top tackler (and missed a couple) and caused a few problems for the AB's at rucks and mauls.
Where he was most noticeable was standing about a yard offside at each ruck - not sure he'll get away with that every game.
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@booboo pretty innocuous really, but be interesting to see how they treat it given an incident with potential for injury can see a RC, while one that didnt look much, but resulted in a player leaving the field.
As already stated, dont think this needed sanction (although didnt get anything on-field, so if meets RC threshold...) but felt MV should.
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@PecoTrain standing a yard off side all the time means you dont have to work so hard to get to the player with the ball
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@Chris-B. Well I maybe a tad optimistic about how good your backs are, I would have backed them to defend short handed
For the life of me I can't understand this 'protecting the player' bullshit being dished out by the referees and comms at every turn. Seems its more like a fingertip to the head is red, but charge on a player on the ground(who is also retreating from the tackle) the head not being the point of contact and its play on?
I mean out of the two incidents, SoB on Naholo and Vunipola on Barret, the other had intent, no arms, and a real chance for the receiving end to get injured, whereas Naholo was unlucky to get a forearm to the head.
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O'Bruen cited so the process worked.
Mea culpa for thinking it wasn't so bad as it clearly was.
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O'Brien's a good christian man isn't he? Attended the same church as Mealamu today.
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@SimonAdd_2 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@taniwharugby you mean the second penalty against the tackler? I can't remember the first.
I've always hated it. Up there with diving over the top of a ruck to score a try for me. Leaves the defenders no legal recourse and just feels like a loophole in the laws that defies the spirit of the game.
my bad, it was the Fiji-Wales game last week where a Fijian was pinged when a Welshman jumped to take a pass (mentioned in post above)
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Having to penalise the tackler is a seriously moronic rule. So everyone jumps when you get to the gainline like Sinckler and you are through the first line of defense. Mind you the fatty can jump, which is probably the most surprising thing.....
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