Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown & Dublin Duel
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@SammyC said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:
Irish forwards all over us, arrogant to think we could get away with Kaino at lock.
Read needs to get involved more, lead from the front
We've been arrogant enough to play without a goal kicker all year, so Kaino seemed like a logical extension.
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@taniwharugby said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:
@Donsteppa why not...only fair the Irish get to win a game against us too
There's a difference between fairness and sacrilege.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:
I guarantee we will win.
Not sure we've got the cavalry on the bench this time.
We're getting outplayed pretty badly and I'm not sure we've got many who can come on and turn that around.
I noted Marshy's comment in the build-up about how you don't need to be tall in the lineout these days and I thought, "Really? I wonder why it is that Retallick and Whitelock are both a lot more than 2 metres tall."
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So Eddie Jones was right - we do have weaknesses.
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@Chris-B. said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:
@ACT-Crusader said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:
I guarantee we will win.
Not sure we've got the cavalry on the bench this time.
We're getting outplayed pretty badly and I'm not sure we've got many who can come on and turn that around.
I noted Marshy's comment in the build-up about how you don't need to be tall in the lineout these days and I thought, "Really? I wonder why it is that Retallick and Whitelock are both a lot more than 2 metres tall."
Ryan Crotty to the resc... oh.
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Schmidt totally outcoaching Hansen. They are dominating the lineout, using the maul, using the choke tackle (not exactly novel tactics), kicking well - into touch. Picking a 6 at lock has turned out to be a shocker from Steve.
We can turn around 17 points but we need to sharpen up rapidly.
Sickening.
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Ireland look great but we're helping them big time at the moment. No comment on some of the refs early decisions in the game. Our backrow is a complete joke at the moment, lineouts a mess. I made a comment that we could struggle against a team that did the basics right, and I'm afraid with this lock pairing we are.
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A few strategic subs would help. The Irish Defensive line can fan out because we aren't trying to punch through the ruck/tackle area with pick 'n gos. Big Charlie would help and so would A Savea with his leg drive/not falling over thing.
Fair play to Ireland though - they are bringing it. Be interesting to see if they go into their shells a bit and try to sit on the lead
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@Billy-Tell said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:
Schmidt totally outcoaching Hansen. They are dominating the lineout, using the maul, using the choke tackle (not exactly novel tactics), kicking well - into touch. Picking a 6 at lock has turned out to be a shocker from Steve.
We can turn around 17 points but we need to sharpen up rapidly.
Sickening.
Both our locks are basically lose forwards, tuipolotu just as ineffective as Kaino
Pretty easy to see why Romano is continually picked ahead of him -
@Billy-Tell dont thnk he has been out coached...we are just not playing well
Think we will see Scott make his debut pretty promptly if not straight from half time.
TJ shouldnt be far away either.
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Lineout needs some work ...
Ireland playing well. Not giving away possession.
We are though.
Not sure of the fix apart from perhaps Barrett to try to fix the lineout.
I'm almost resigned to this one now.
But being a NZer you only write the ABs off when we're 3 tries down with 30s left ...
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I don't mind the Kaino at lock option, but paired with a lock who is rarely ever used as a lineout option for the ABs is not good.
Kaino is playing poorly though around the track. As is Read.
It would be nice if we could just build some pressure with ball in hand rather than just going wide from the get go.
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I guess playing Sam and BBBR 80 minutes every week without developing a backup lock that can start a test has hurt us a bit here. We had to go for our impact lock and a loosie and they've both struggled. Our lineout has cost us good ball and possesion at crucial moments.
