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Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown & Dublin Duel

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  • SammyCS Offline
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    Irish forwards all over us, arrogant to think we could get away with Kaino at lock.

    Read needs to get involved more, lead from the front

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    @taniwharugby said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

    @Donsteppa said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

    Nice of Sam Cane to do something.

    Liam Squire successfully auditioning to be the new suitcase.

    TBF to Cane, hardly any of them have done anytrhing.

    You wish to be fair at this point of the game? 🙂

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    @Donsteppa why not...only fair the Irish get to win a game against us too

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    @SammyC
    They all need to get involved more - start playing some fucken rugby would be a start

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    @SammyC said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

    Irish forwards all over us, arrogant to think we could get away with Kaino at lock.

    Read needs to get involved more, lead from the front

    We've been arrogant enough to play without a goal kicker all year, so Kaino seemed like a logical extension.

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    @taniwharugby said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

    @Donsteppa why not...only fair the Irish get to win a game against us too

    There's a difference between fairness and sacrilege.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

    I guarantee we will win.

    Not sure we've got the cavalry on the bench this time.

    We're getting outplayed pretty badly and I'm not sure we've got many who can come on and turn that around.

    I noted Marshy's comment in the build-up about how you don't need to be tall in the lineout these days and I thought, "Really? I wonder why it is that Retallick and Whitelock are both a lot more than 2 metres tall."

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    Wow. Ireland are bringing all the pain from 2013, and bringing it from on deep. Not sure we have the brains, talent, or bench to come back from here.

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    So Eddie Jones was right - we do have weaknesses.

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    @Chris-B. said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

    I guarantee we will win.

    Not sure we've got the cavalry on the bench this time.

    We're getting outplayed pretty badly and I'm not sure we've got many who can come on and turn that around.

    I noted Marshy's comment in the build-up about how you don't need to be tall in the lineout these days and I thought, "Really? I wonder why it is that Retallick and Whitelock are both a lot more than 2 metres tall."

    Ryan Crotty to the resc... oh.

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    Schmidt totally outcoaching Hansen. They are dominating the lineout, using the maul, using the choke tackle (not exactly novel tactics), kicking well - into touch. Picking a 6 at lock has turned out to be a shocker from Steve.

    We can turn around 17 points but we need to sharpen up rapidly.

    Sickening.

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    Ireland look great but we're helping them big time at the moment. No comment on some of the refs early decisions in the game. Our backrow is a complete joke at the moment, lineouts a mess. I made a comment that we could struggle against a team that did the basics right, and I'm afraid with this lock pairing we are.

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    We need to attack them around the ruck more. I can't remember the last time an All black team actually did that, certainly they haven't this year. We need to score first otherwise the game is gone.

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    A few strategic subs would help. The Irish Defensive line can fan out because we aren't trying to punch through the ruck/tackle area with pick 'n gos. Big Charlie would help and so would A Savea with his leg drive/not falling over thing.

    Fair play to Ireland though - they are bringing it. Be interesting to see if they go into their shells a bit and try to sit on the lead

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    @Billy-Tell said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

    Schmidt totally outcoaching Hansen. They are dominating the lineout, using the maul, using the choke tackle (not exactly novel tactics), kicking well - into touch. Picking a 6 at lock has turned out to be a shocker from Steve.

    We can turn around 17 points but we need to sharpen up rapidly.

    Sickening.

    Both our locks are basically lose forwards, tuipolotu just as ineffective as Kaino
    Pretty easy to see why Romano is continually picked ahead of him

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    Biggest winner from an NZ perspective from this half is big Dom Bird.

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    Too many players offering up rubbish today. Of all the games to be embarrassing, a showcase game against a team who have never beaten us.

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    @Billy-Tell dont thnk he has been out coached...we are just not playing well

    Think we will see Scott make his debut pretty promptly if not straight from half time.

    TJ shouldnt be far away either.

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    We have turned over way too much possession with lineout loses, mauls, in touch, penalties and a very poor kicking game. No way you can win when you give away so much possession.

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    Lineout needs some work ...

    Ireland playing well. Not giving away possession.

    We are though.

    Not sure of the fix apart from perhaps Barrett to try to fix the lineout.

    I'm almost resigned to this one now.

    But being a NZer you only write the ABs off when we're 3 tries down with 30s left ...

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