Aussie Pro Rugby
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@Nevorian said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Stargazer said in Aussie Rugby in general:
should be ok if he repents
Must be on a shit contract if he can’t afford a cab or an Uber
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@NTA never been comfortable with the asleep in a parked and turned off car equals drunk driving laws.
Seems to me most cases of car sleeping are legitimately undertaken in order to not breach dui laws, which is the end goal innit?. It's got a stench of entrapment about it ( the legislation, that is).
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@Siam said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA never been comfortable with the asleep in a parked and turned off car equals drunk driving laws.
Seems to me most cases of car sleeping are legitimately undertaken in order to not breach dui laws, which is the end goal innit?. It's got a stench of entrapment about it ( the legislation, that is).
If you're stupid enough to sleep in the front seats, you deserve to get done.
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The Rugby Union Players’ Association will establish an Expression of Faith and Beliefs Review with its players following the controversial dumping of Israel Folau by Rugby Australia.
Review to be conducted after Super Rugby and Sevens circuit are completed.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby in general:
The Rugby Union Players’ Association will establish an Expression of Faith and Beliefs Review
Sounds like a committee is needed!
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A genuine legend and one of the greats -
Former Wallabies flanker George Smith has retired from rugby, ending a career notable for its quality and longevity.
One of the great Australian rugby careers is finally over after George Smith announced his retirement following 20 years of yeoman service.Smith’s short-term contract with English club Bristol finished over the weekend, leaving the 38-year-old to announce he would end a professional tenure that had encompassed half his life, beginning as a dreadlocked teenager with the Brumbies in 2000.
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in Aussie Rugby in general:
A genuine legend and one of the greats -
Former Wallabies flanker George Smith has retired from rugby, ending a career notable for its quality and longevity.
One of the great Australian rugby careers is finally over after George Smith announced his retirement following 20 years of yeoman service.Smith’s short-term contract with English club Bristol finished over the weekend, leaving the 38-year-old to announce he would end a professional tenure that had encompassed half his life, beginning as a dreadlocked teenager with the Brumbies in 2000.
an absolute, dead set legend. If he'd stayed in Australia, would have had yet more titanic clashes with McCaw. We were privileged to see him play; so much rugby smart and effective around the paddock
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@Siam said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA never been comfortable with the asleep in a parked and turned off car equals drunk driving laws.
Seems to me most cases of car sleeping are legitimately undertaken in order to not breach dui laws, which is the end goal innit?. It's got a stench of entrapment about it ( the legislation, that is).
Police still require evidence and need to prove he was the driver. A magistrate still needs to find him guilty of DUI on the evidence offered by Police. Police would not charge someone for DUI if they didn't have a prima facie case.
An example would be Police observe a car stopped in an unusual location stopped at a funny angle, the engine is still running. They approach the vehicle and observe a male slumped over the steering wheel with keys in the ignition. They manage to wake the driver and the smell of intoxicating liquor is very strong. His eyes are glazed and he has vomit on his shirt. They look around the car and cannot see any empty bottles or cans. Suspecting the male is intoxicated they caution the driver before asking him questions. He would either say nothing, admit to driving or lie. Police would IMO have grounds to suspect he was the driver and submit him to a breath analysis.
Police would then likely look for witnesses, CCTV, where were they drinking prior to driving etc etc. The magistrate can then decide if the male was driving.
In this case he appears to have apologised for his actions and is owning up to driving intoxicated. Maybe he and Izzy had just had a catch up.
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@chimoaus said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Siam said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA never been comfortable with the asleep in a parked and turned off car equals drunk driving laws.
Seems to me most cases of car sleeping are legitimately undertaken in order to not breach dui laws, which is the end goal innit?. It's got a stench of entrapment about it ( the legislation, that is).
Police still require evidence and need to prove he was the driver. A magistrate still needs to find him guilty of DUI on the evidence offered by Police. Police would not charge someone for DUI if they didn't have a prima facie case.
An example would be Police observe a car stopped in an unusual location stopped at a funny angle, the engine is still running. They approach the vehicle and observe a male slumped over the steering wheel with keys in the ignition. They manage to wake the driver and the smell of intoxicating liquor is very strong. His eyes are glazed and he has vomit on his shirt. They look around the car and cannot see any empty bottles or cans. Suspecting the male is intoxicated they caution the driver before asking him questions. He would either say nothing, admit to driving or lie. Police would IMO have grounds to suspect he was the driver and submit him to a breath analysis.
Police would then likely look for witnesses, CCTV, where were they drinking prior to driving etc etc. The magistrate can then decide if the male was driving.
None of that applies to NSW. The relevant legislation provides that you are in control of the vehicle if you're in the driver's seat (even being in the front) which then satisfies the relevant section under Schedule 3:
Power to conduct random breath testing(cf STM Act, s 13 (1) and (3A)–(5))
(1) A police officer may require a person to submit to a breath test in accordance with the officer’s directions if the officer has reasonable cause to believe that:
(a) the person is or was driving a motor vehicle on a road, or
(b) the person is or was occupying the driving seat of a motor vehicle on a road and attempting to put the motor vehicle in motion, or
(c) the person (being the holder of an applicable driver licence) is or was occupying the seat in a motor vehicle next to a learner driver while the driver is or was driving the vehicle on a road.Further if a police officer is of the opinion that a person who is driving (or about to drive) a motor vehicle is under the influence of alcohol or any other drug, or a combination of drugs, the police officer may:
(a) prohibit the person from driving the vehicle while the person is under the influence of alcohol or that other drug or a combination of drugs,The legislation defines drive:
drive includes:
(a) be in control of the steering, movement or propulsion of a vehicle, and
(b) in relation to a trailer, draw or tow the trailer, and
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George Smith was a gun right from the start, what a phenomenal player. One of the best all-round rugby players i have ever had the pleasure of watching. The fact he was forced to share game time with a plodder like Phil Waugh is one of the great tragedies of Wallaby rugby.
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Bat sign goes bright blue over @barbarian Gotham.
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Phil Waugh was one of the greatest Australians to set foot on a rugby field. Calling him a 'plodder' is laughable. Ha! Ha! I don't let it worry me. You're the only one who looks foolish when you disrespect an immortal of the game in that way.
If there was any justice in the world, Phil Waugh would still be leading the Wallabies to Tokyo, no doubt trying to win our third consecutive World Cup.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Phil Waugh was one of the greatest Australians to set foot on a rugby field. Calling him a 'plodder' is laughable. Ha! Ha! I don't let it worry me. You're the only one who looks foolish when you disrespect an immortal of the game in that way.
If there was any justice in the world, Phil Waugh would still be leading the Wallabies to Tokyo, no doubt trying to win our third consecutive World Cup.
we all have our pet blind spots
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
George Smith was a gun right from the start, what a phenomenal player. One of the best all-round rugby players i have ever had the pleasure of watching.
Agreed. Phenomenally talented player.
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
George Smith was a gun right from the start, what a phenomenal player. One of the best all-round rugby players i have ever had the pleasure of watching. The fact he was forced to share game time with a plodder like Phil Waugh is one of the great tragedies of Wallaby rugby.
The worst bit? When the Tahs saw both Waugh and Smith going around as youngsters, they decided to wait on Waugh and Eddie Fucking Jones took Smith to the Ponies.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Phil Waugh was one of the greatest Australians to set foot on a rugby field.
Phil Waugh was the angriest dwarf I've ever seen play rugby.
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@nzzp said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Phil Waugh was one of the greatest Australians to set foot on a rugby field.
Phil Waugh was the angriest dwarf I've ever seen play rugby.
Probably because he went bald early.
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Years back someone described Waugh pretty well. I'm not sure who but have a feeling it may have been @NTA
"Waugh has a face like a smashed crab."
