Aussie Pro Rugby
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@antipodean Thanks for the legislation however I think you may misunderstand me. Simply sitting in the drivers seat in a parked vehicle does not give Police the power to breath test.
The key wording in B is attempting to put vehicle in motion. Being slumped over the wheel of a parked car does not satisfy B. You can’t be trying to put a vehicle in motion if you are asleep or passed out.
My example given is what Police use to get reasonable grounds to satisfy A.
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@chimoaus https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/tolu-latu-stood-down-by-waratahs-after-drink-driving-charge-20190521-p51prj.html
It is understood allegedly police found the 12-Test Wallaby motionless behind the wheel of his car while stopped at a set of traffic lights on Cleveland Street in Sydney in the early hours of the morning.
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@chimoaus https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/tolu-latu-stood-down-by-waratahs-after-drink-driving-charge-20190521-p51prj.html
It is understood allegedly police found the 12-Test Wallaby motionless behind the wheel of his car while stopped at a set of traffic lights on Cleveland Street in Sydney in the early hours of the morning.
Yep I reckon that would give them start on satisfying A for sure.
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@chimoaus don't know about NSW, but I wouldn't bet on getting away with being drunkenly slumped over the steering wheel in Qld. Surely NSW is similar?
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@Crazy-Horse said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@chimoaus don't know about NSW, but I wouldn't bet on getting away with being drunkenly slumped over the steering wheel in Qld. Surely NSW is similar?
I’m not saying you get away with it, I am saying Police need evidence to prove driver. It is possible I had a fight with the missus, drove my car to the nearest car park, stopped the car. Drunk a bottle of whiskey, threw the bottle away and fell asleep behind the wheel. At no point did I drive intoxicated or try and put the vehicle in motion.
Police always need evidence to put before a magistrate, simply being slumped over the wheel drunk is not enough. There always other factors that help Police form reasonable grounds and that is what they are trained to look for.
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@chimoaus in Qld at least, don't know about NSW, there is an offence of being in charge of a motor vehicle will over the limit. Don't have to prove someone has been driving, merely have to prove they are in charge. Even having car keys on you and not actually being in the car while pissed could be interpreted as being in charge under some circumstances. Being pissed, slumped over the steering wheel is enough. The car keys don't necessarily have to be in the ignition either.
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@Crazy-Horse So don’t sleep drunk in your car in QLD by the sounds. There is no “In Charge” wording in NSW Legislation as far as I know.
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George Smith was a cheat. Referees turned a blind eye to his breakdown cheating. It was a blight on the game.
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@ACT-Crusader Sub McCaw for Smith and the rest of the world outside NZ for you - lol.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Aussie Rugby in general:
George Smith was a cheat. Referees turned a blind eye to his breakdown cheating. It was a plight on the game.
Marshall '03.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Aussie Rugby in general:
George Smith was a cheat. Referees turned a blind eye to his breakdown cheating. It was a plight on the game.
And a blight.
Had a cloak of invisibility ...
But seriously: George Smith was a legend as he was the only player ever throughout McCaw's career that in any one given year (can't remember which one, fairly early) who I would have picked in a World XV in front of him.
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@chimoaus said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@antipodean Thanks for the legislation however I think you may misunderstand me. Simply sitting in the drivers seat in a parked vehicle does not give Police the power to breath test.
The key wording in B is attempting to put vehicle in motion. Being slumped over the wheel of a parked car does not satisfy B. You can’t be trying to put a vehicle in motion if you are asleep or passed out.
My example given is what Police use to get reasonable grounds to satisfy A.
For them to breath test they must have had reasonble grounds to suspect he had been driving the car.You can be if you're found to have the keys in the ignition. particularly if you're stationary at a set of lights. That satisfies the law.
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@booboo said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@ACT-Crusader said in Aussie Rugby in general:
George Smith was a cheat. Referees turned a blind eye to his breakdown cheating. It was a plight on the game.
And a blight.
Had a cloak of invisibility ...
But seriously: George Smith was a legend as he was the only player ever throughout McCaw's career that in any one given year (can't remember which one, fairly early) who I would have picked in a World XV in front of him.
Blight indeed.
In seriousness, Smith was a phenomenal player. Different type of player to McCaw but yet they were both exceptional over the ball.
@booboo I found a place for George in my World XV, it was when OZ moved him to 8 when they made the mistake to play him and Waugh 😀
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'They're the national team, they shouldn't even be in the comp' - Wallabies great calls for Jaguares to be booted from Super Rugby
A Wallabies great has called for the removal of the Jaguares from Super Rugby, just as they look on track to host their first-ever quarter-final in the competition.
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I think what people are slowly coming around to recognising is that the Brumbies are playing better with a balanced backrow. I wonder if Chieka will take note.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I think what people are slowly coming around to recognising is that the Brumbies are playing better with a balanced backrow. I wonder if Chieka will take note.
Yeah he's well known for taking new ideas on board
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@Machpants could kick the worst Aussie team and give Argies another team, that'll water them down!
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