Aussie Pro Rugby
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@no-quarter said in Aussie Rugby in general:
and the idiots on social media work themselves into a lather.
We have met the enemy and he is us!
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@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Huge public outcry? That's simply not true.
It's been solid back page content for the past week. I suppose we don't want to get bogged down in semantics, but I'd call that a fair outcry.
If these companies can take this coin then they would be monumental hypocrites if they are willing to drop their sponsorship for what one player (albeit a very good one) wrote on instagram.
I agree totally. We're following a pretty familiar outrage cycle here. It will all blow over soon.
I hardly think that can be used to adequately gauge the level of public outrage. Nor can social media for that matter.
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@chris-b said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@no-quarter said in Aussie Rugby in general:
and the idiots on social media work themselves into a lather.
We have met the enemy and he is us!
The Fern is different!! Just don't mention the Cookie Monster...
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I hardly think that can be used to adequately gauge the level of public outrage. Nor can social media for that matter.
OK. Well let's go a different metric - I've had more than a few conversations at work about it. My girlfriend (not a huge rugby head but understands the game thankfully) has wanted to chat about it. My mum brought it with me yesterday.
Now this may not constitute 'outrage' but I certainly think there has been a very high interest.
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@no-quarter said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@chris-b said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@no-quarter said in Aussie Rugby in general:
and the idiots on social media work themselves into a lather.
We have met the enemy and he is us!
The Fern is different!! Just don't mention the Cookie Monster...
I'm afraid not. We are all now "Internet Personalities".
We should be fucking ashamed!
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@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I hardly think that can be used to adequately gauge the level of public outrage. Nor can social media for that matter.
OK. Well let's go a different metric - I've had more than a few conversations at work about it. My girlfriend (not a huge rugby head but understands the game thankfully) has wanted to chat about it. My mum brought it with me yesterday.
Now this may not constitute 'outrage' but I certainly think there has been a very high interest.
I just had my kid at a 3 day rugby camp and nobody even mentioned it. There is only "high" interest because the media keeps fanning the flames.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I just had my kid at a 3 day rugby camp and nobody even mentioned it. There is only "high" interest because the media keeps fanning the flames.
Of course. But it's a bit of a chicken and egg thing. Rugby journos are on it because it's broken beyond the sport, and it's probably getting good clicks/comments online.
But I've forgotten what we're even arguing about now, so I'll tap out here.
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I thought actually a fair article from Jones - as an opinion piece anyway. It's not written as fact, and presents one side of things.
Rugby has taken some decent strides over the years in ensuring acceptance for people who bat for the other team. It's most high profile ref is open, a lions captain is open & then you have well recognised and supported gay rugby competitions and teams. This didn't happen overnight.
Folau posting things like this could be read as taking some backward steps and in a public forum, does need to be dealt with. Yes, there are contradictions all over the show, but the ARU almost has an obligation to World Rugby to condemn.
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@majorrage said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I thought actually a fair article from Jones - as an opinion piece anyway. It's not written as fact, and presents one side of things.
Rugby has taken some decent strides over the years in ensuring acceptance for people who bat for the other team. It's most high profile ref is open, a lions captain is open & then you have well recognised and supported gay rugby competitions and teams. This didn't happen overnight.
Folau posting things like this could be read as taking some backward steps and in a public forum, does need to be dealt with. Yes, there are contradictions all over the show, but the ARU almost has an obligation to World Rugby to condemn.
Correct me if I'm wrong - and I say that 'cos I know you bastards will, but didn't Folau simply answer a question that was put to him rather than trumpet his views? That's my recollection anyway and if true then I would want to know who posed the question and why?
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@catogrande said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Correct me if I'm wrong - and I say that 'cos I know you bastards will, but didn't Folau simply answer a question that was put to him rather than trumpet his views? That's my recollection anyway and if true then I would want to know who posed the question and why?
Correct ... but it was online and he chose to answer it. Between twitter, instagram etc he gets loads of questions but doesn't answer them all ...
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@majorrage Fair enough, he has some culpability then.
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@catogrande said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@majorrage Fair enough, he has some culpability then.
I get your point though - this happens all the time in interview, especially with Steve Hansen, Michael Chieka, Eddie Jones.
They'll hold a press conference as required by their employers, world rugby, broadcasters etc. and then a reporter will say ask one of them a direct question which will be answered diplomatically with an opinion on it ... then the headline on the opposite side of the equator will read "Hansen Slams 6 Nations After Dismal England Performance" ... then every Harby-Jones, Tarquin, and Griffith-Joyner will go nuts acting like Hansen called it to explicityly have a go.
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@catogrande said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@majorrage said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I thought actually a fair article from Jones - as an opinion piece anyway. It's not written as fact, and presents one side of things.
Rugby has taken some decent strides over the years in ensuring acceptance for people who bat for the other team. It's most high profile ref is open, a lions captain is open & then you have well recognised and supported gay rugby competitions and teams. This didn't happen overnight.
Folau posting things like this could be read as taking some backward steps and in a public forum, does need to be dealt with. Yes, there are contradictions all over the show, but the ARU almost has an obligation to World Rugby to condemn.
Correct me if I'm wrong - and I say that 'cos I know you bastards will, but didn't Folau simply answer a question that was put to him rather than trumpet his views? That's my recollection anyway and if true then I would want to know who posed the question and why?
Correct me if I'm wrong - and I say that 'cos I know you bastards will, but didn't Folau simply answer a question that was put to him rather than trumpet his views? That's my recollection anyway and if true then I would want to know who posed the question and why?
Can I just slide a wee opinion in here ... and again correct me if I am wrong ... and forgive me (like any Christian would or should do) ... as I forgive the weasel words of those who twitter against us ... but Folau never suggested that homosexuals should go to hell, or that he wants them to (that would be very un-Christian of him).
Hardly "hate speech", more expressing an opinion derived from the Bible that they WILL go to Hell. Not "I hate you and I hope you burn".
You'd hope a Christian would express something more akin to "I hope you are redeemed and don't go to Hell".
WANTING someone to go to Hell is (or should be) anathema to a Christian.
Remember that billboard that "God loves Osama bin Ladin"? In Christianity everyone is loved, including those we'd kind of like, on normal circumstances, to see suffer for eternity.
... geez listen to me ... who am I? Billy Graham?
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