All Blacks EOYT
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks EOYT:
Taukei'aho was also in good form last year but for whatever reason Foster preferred Taylor.
Samisoni's 2023 form was nowhere near his 2022 form. Hopefully next year he can find his 2022 form.
Yep. Can't rewrite history, he went off the boil - really struggled against the Boks. Probably an indication of just how well Codie Taylor has played this year.
I'd say he is comfortably All Blacks player of the year... Tupou Vaa'i (?) a distant second?
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Big three weeks coming up for Asafo Aumua I reckon. Off-contract at the end of next year, so this tour could be make or break. If he fails to make an impact, I think that could just about be it for him in a black jumper - may choose to cash-in, because I suspect the ABs would look to other options.
He has played every test this year, and other than in his two starts against the minnows he has been very disappointing IMO.
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@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
Big three weeks coming up for Asafo Aumua I reckon. Off-contract at the end of next year, so this tour could be make or break. If he fails to make an impact, I think that could just about be it for him in a black jumper - may choose to cash-in, because I suspect the ABs would look to other options.
He has played every test this year, and other than in his two starts against the minnows he has been very disappointing IMO.
He has been a bit hot and cold, but if it were not for the lineout issues I don't think there would be that many negative comments on his play. Obviously that's the most important job for him though.
For me he is a guy who looks like he should be a great impact player, but in reality just isn't suited to that role - as of now at least. He's too nervous coming on and throwing critical lineouts late in a game. We'd be better off starting him and giving him the first half to go hard, then bring Taylor on for the 2nd half so we have his wide running and most importantly his experience throwing late in the game. That would require a change of mindset in the ABs though, which let's face it seems a bit unlikely as it is already at least 5 years too late vs when the Boks figured it out. -
@reprobate said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
Big three weeks coming up for Asafo Aumua I reckon. Off-contract at the end of next year, so this tour could be make or break. If he fails to make an impact, I think that could just about be it for him in a black jumper - may choose to cash-in, because I suspect the ABs would look to other options.
He has played every test this year, and other than in his two starts against the minnows he has been very disappointing IMO.
He has been a bit hot and cold, but if it were not for the lineout issues I don't think there would be that many negative comments on his play. Obviously that's the most important job for him though.
For me he is a guy who looks like he should be a great impact player, but in reality just isn't suited to that role - as of now at least. He's too nervous coming on and throwing critical lineouts late in a game. We'd be better off starting him and giving him the first half to go hard, then bring Taylor on for the 2nd half so we have his wide running and most importantly his experience throwing late in the game. That would require a change of mindset in the ABs though, which let's face it seems a bit unlikely as it is already at least 5 years too late vs when the Boks figured it out.No doubt we are not using our bench as an asset right now. The Boks are streets ahead of us in that regard
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@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks EOYT:
Taukei'aho was also in good form last year but for whatever reason Foster preferred Taylor.
Samisoni's 2023 form was nowhere near his 2022 form. Hopefully next year he can find his 2022 form.
Yep. Can't rewrite history, he went off the boil - really struggled against the Boks. Probably an indication of just how well Codie Taylor has played this year.
I'd say he is comfortably All Blacks player of the year... Tupou Vaa'i (?) a distant second?
Struggled against the Boks? What, in the game at Twickenham where every player bar Cam Roigard was very average for the All Blacks?
Taukei'aho came on at halftime (when NZ were already down to 14 men) and still made the second most carries of any All Black and third most of any player, and made the second-most metres of any All Black forward. It wasn't a vintage showing but he was actually pretty good relative to his teammates.
I think it's you who's rewriting history at the moment...
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@Tim said in All Blacks EOYT:
Beauden Barrett should play his best position in the big matches: super-sub.
What’s strange is that he did quite well in coming on at 10 earlier in the year, and they abandoned it.
It also allows Dmac to move to 15 late which is also not a terrible idea.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Tim said in All Blacks EOYT:
Beauden Barrett should play his best position in the big matches: super-sub.
What’s strange is that he did quite well in coming on at 10 earlier in the year, and they abandoned it.
It also allows Dmac to move to 15 late which is also not a terrible idea.
Gone to one-up on the Foster era by binning successful mistakes.
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@Tim said in All Blacks EOYT:
@gt12 Yeah, I thought he was very effective in that role against England, and we do struggle in the second half ...
Easy way to fix that I guess, tread water until Mo'unga is back.
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@dogmeat said in All Blacks EOYT:
@gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT:
If he comes back and is average,
You expect him to have improved in Japan?
Skills with chopsticks should have improved
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@dogmeat said in All Blacks EOYT:
@gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT:
If he comes back and is average,
You expect him to have improved in Japan?
Yeah, like the current player of the year did.
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@dogmeat said in All Blacks EOYT:
@gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT:
If he comes back and is average,
You expect him to have improved in Japan?
Honestly, no.
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McKenzie has been a significant upgrade on Mo'unga, one of the few positives this year is he appears to be finding his feet at 10 despite our loosies getting smacked around every game. Beauden's best position at this stage of his career is either at fullback or off the bench as a finisher.
If Mo'unga comes back then I think by far his best position would also be off the bench, and I've thought that about him since he first made the ABs. His game just doesn't translate to test rugby, always standing wider looking for mis-matches that don't exist. He ends up becoming completely anonymous against the better sides, and in the past it has led to Beauden trying to take control from fullback which hasn't worked.
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Smith believes Scott Robertson’s All Blacks are attempting to revive the style that propelled them to 88 wins from 103 tests between 2003 and 2011 and the unrivalled success through to 2016.
“There’s no reason why we can’t return to that sort of rugby and that’s what the All Blacks are trying to do.
“If we play like that and we’re successful then the world will follow us rather than the other way around.”
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@Tim said in All Blacks EOYT:
Smith believes Scott Robertson’s All Blacks are attempting to revive the style that propelled them to 88 wins from 103 tests between 2003 and 2011 and the unrivalled success through to 2016.
“There’s no reason why we can’t return to that sort of rugby and that’s what the All Blacks are trying to do.
“If we play like that and we’re successful then the world will follow us rather than the other way around.”
No reason we can't return. LOL we never truly left, that's why we've been struggling with rush aggressive defence for years!
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And yet the Boks have played their style for over 100 years arguably and Razzie just enhances it. I think it is more of matching the style with our DNA (overused buzzwords I know). That doesn't mean going back in time, it means playing to the strengths of our players so they have the most opportunity to thrive.
AND the success of the ABs until 2016 didn't mean the headless chook shite of recent years, it was rather pragmatic at times (Example: 2015 semi-final vs Boks, Carter just plugged the Boks in their own 22 and they couldn't escape in the last quarter). As a related side note; DMac does have that game if you look at the Chiefs. The rot seems to coincide with BB at pivot...sigh....
Anyway, at least that is what I hope this is what the prof means.
Sir Wayne Smith: How the All Blacks can rule the world through attacking rugby - NZ Herald
