All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@gt12 said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
That's exactly what needs to happen.
The point I'm trying to make is that their capability to do anything is currently fucked by their insistence on keeping on these two untouchables for the 80.oh i completely agree. And it's worse because Savea and Barrett are playing pretty average rugby, while those around them play better (ok not Cane v Australia) so they keep them on until they are fucked, which gives you 10 unproductive minutes from them, and your replacements no time to get in to the game.
Don't get me started on them running some guys into the ground and giving others meaningless minutes where they can't make an impact.
The innovation is coming. Surely.
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@canefan said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Jet Yeah, some genius decided the All Blacks must have a "League-style 10" and made that the great shibboleth of New Zealand Rugby, when a 10, who can catch, pass, kick, tackle and above all make the correct decisions under pressure, is what we really need.
As I've said before, it's the hangover from the Dan Carter era. Too much focus on the spectacular part of his game and not enough on the fact that DC did all the fundamentals of 10 play exceptionally well
I cannot upvote this enough. I also agree the BB over cruden legacy is also being felt....
Can't recall a game where BB just commanded the game around the park like DC and Cruden could. #defensivebombsforthewin 🙄
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@canefan said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Someone was leaving big holes around the ruck vs Japan. Was it the pattern, was it Cane, or someone else?
Props imo
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@antipodean said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
As I mentioned here https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/post/997305 if they start Finau, Cane and Savea, then the bench can have a replacement lock, Sititi (who has played at 6 a couple of times now) and Lakai.
Why not start Sititi/Savea at 7/8 in whichever order, and Finau at 6 with Cane on the bench. Fresh experienced player on late, and the best players getting the most minutes.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@antipodean said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
As I mentioned here https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/post/997305 if they start Finau, Cane and Savea, then the bench can have a replacement lock, Sititi (who has played at 6 a couple of times now) and Lakai.
Why not start Sititi/Savea at 7/8 in whichever order, and Finau at 6 with Cane on the bench. Fresh experienced player on late, and the best players getting the most minutes.
There isn't an alternative universe where this coaching group is going to do that for this weekend.
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Where is that Landers guy and the starting backline for England? He's a bit behind this week.... it's already Wednesday!
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@darylmitchell said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Where is that Landers guy and the starting backline for England? He's a bit behind this week.... it's already Wednesday!
I’m trying. UK to NZ time difference isn’t our friend. Will be straight in here if I manage to get it. Will try for the AB XV too.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
I actually like the idea of McKenzie off the bench. If used correctly he could really make a big difference.
Except he'll be put in when the game is mostly gone and will try things that will likely fail and everyone will complain he doesn't suit test rugby.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
I actually like the idea of McKenzie off the bench. If used correctly he could really make a big difference.
Except he'll be put in when the game is mostly gone and will try things that will likely fail and everyone will complain he doesn't suit test rugby.
Against Japan he was threading the ball around the backline quite well I thought.
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Team I think they will pick. Jordie Barrett's fitness is the major uncertainty.
1 Williams
2 Taylor
3 Lomax
4 Barrett
5 Vaa'i
6 Sititi
7 Cane
8 Savea9 Ratima
10 Barrett
11 Clarke
12 ALB
13 Ioane
14 Reece
15 Jordan16 Aumua
17 de Groot
18 Tosi
19 Tuipulotu
20 Finau
21 TJP
22 Havili
23 McKenzie -
12.30 am NZ time but what day ?
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@Jimmy-Jimmy Friday.
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What I guessed but seeing that he did a Rassie with naming the Japan team early I had to make sure.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
The captain is allowed to be subbed off if the other guy is going better.
That's why we have VC's isn't it?
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Bones the Weapon.
Imagine how good he'll be when he's 38.
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@game_film said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
I’m looking at the team lists, both announced and predicted, and wondering to myself, ‘How the hell is … playing international rugby in 2024?’
