All Blacks EOYT
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That's all true and it's fine if we are winning (and well) but we're really not.
At this stage in his coaching cycle, I'm not sure sticking with players at the very fag-end of their careers is the way to go - it just reduces the time he has to build the team he wants.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Chris-B pointing out they picked an average youngster when they were painted into a corner doesn't seem that great to me.
The original point I was making was - Razor wouldn't have been forgiven if we'd lost a game because of Bell.
Even though I've pointed out why there was some logic to that selection, which to labour the point with NZ A picks (or not):
Riccitelli - too small
Eklund - too small
Slater - injured
McAlister - another CrusaderCorrect, because Bell is average and would have been a stupid selection. Why would you select a youngster off the back of an ordinary season, above 3 proven performers in good form?
You've chosen about the worst option to try and prove your point and it's bordering on bizarre... probably because it's a point you can't prove?
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@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Japan:
We beat England 2-0 up front first 2 games with the new regime. We are much better than we were then.
England at Twickenham will be a tough ask. We were actually close to losing either of those games and they were at home.
And I'm not convinced we are better that we were then. Part of that is expected as game plans etc bed in, but the on-field management and ability to stay focussed when under pressure (particularly in the last quarter) has gone off a cliff.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks v Japan:
Roigard was pretty average really, apart from the try - and there's only so much credit you can give for that with Japan's tackling performance. Hopefully he still makes the England team.
Disappointed Robertson didn't leave him out longer. maybe had a minor niggle?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:
That's all true and it's fine if we are winning (and well) but we're really not.
At this stage in his coaching cycle, I'm not sure sticking with players at the very fag-end of their careers is the way to go - it just reduces the time he has to build the team he wants.
Yeah - but, there's only a handful.
Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.
When you line them up against Mealamu, Woodcock, Thorn, DC, Nonu - it';s only the wings that almost certainly won't make it because it's rare they get to 30.
I guess my point is that we've got tons of time.
I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.
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@Victor-Meldrew yeah I dont understand subbing him early. He certainly hasn't had too much rugby, he has had a couple of games to get some match fitness, and zero to gain by playing TJP. Maybe a niggle, or maybe it points to them already deciding they are starting him next week, because otherwise there seems no upside.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:
Yeah - but, there's only a handful.
Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.
That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...
I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.
At the moment we're losing matches and missing opportunities to develop newbies.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:
Yeah - but, there's only a handful.
Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.
That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...
I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.
At the moment we're losing matches and missing opportunities to develop newbies.
Uhhhh....hello.....we've won 3 in a row.....
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:
Yeah - but, there's only a handful.
Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.
That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...
I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.
At the moment we're losing matches and missing opportunities to develop newbies.
Uhhhh....hello.....we've won 3 in a row.....
Winning the easy ones. Flat track bullies.
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@Chris-B Most of the NZ hookers aren't tall (< 1.83 m), and that includes those in the ABs. Some are obviously much bigger/heavier than others (ST). It's why Thompson could have been an interesting long-term option as he is a similar build to Marx. Slater is also on the taller side (1.86 m).
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:
Yeah - but, there's only a handful.
Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.
That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...
I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.
At the moment we're losing matches and missing opportunities to develop newbies.
Uhhhh....hello.....we've won 3 in a row.....
Yep, we're really on a roll. Even put 20 points on the 10th placed Test team a few weeks back...
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:
Yeah - but, there's only a handful.
Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.
That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...
I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.
At the moment we're losing matches and missing opportunities to develop newbies.
Uhhhh....hello.....we've won 3 in a row.....
Yep, we're really on a roll. Even put 20 points on the 10th placed Test team a few weeks back...
Spain, Portugal, Romania and Wales will be breathing a sigh of relief that we won't get our hands on them!
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Chris-B Most of the NZ hookers aren't tall (< 1.83 m), and that includes those in the ABs. Some are obviously much bigger/heavier than others (ST). It's why Thompson could have been an interesting long-term option as he is a similar build to Marx. Slater is also on the taller side (1.86 m).
I'm all for it - taller and bigger hookers.
But the coaches have told us for years that they try to pack on as much as weight as possible - especially in the tight forwards - without compromising performance elsewhere.
The harsh reality is that you can't make short hookers much bigger. That's a huge problem for Ricky and Kurt - among others.
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@pakman said in All Blacks EOYT:
My dear, In the midst of hate, I found there was, within me, an invincible love. In the midst of tears, I found there was, within me, an invincible smile. In the midst of chaos, I found there was, within me, an invincible calm. I realized, through it all, that… In the midst of winter, I found there was, within me, an invincible summer. And that makes me happy. For it says that no matter how hard the world pushes against me, within me, there’s something stronger – something better, pushing right back. Truly yours, Albert Camus
I guess that rules out England for Hoskins.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:
That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...
I am not convinced he is the man for the present.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks EOYT:
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@MN5 Who the hell wrote that jizz soaked drivel?
AI
Either that or trawl thru the old Foster v Razor threads
