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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Chris-B

    That's all true and it's fine if we are winning (and well) but we're really not.

    At this stage in his coaching cycle, I'm not sure sticking with players at the very fag-end of their careers is the way to go - it just reduces the time he has to build the team he wants.

    Yeah - but, there's only a handful.

    Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.

    When you line them up against Mealamu, Woodcock, Thorn, DC, Nonu - it';s only the wings that almost certainly won't make it because it's rare they get to 30.

    I guess my point is that we've got tons of time.

    I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.

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    @Victor-Meldrew yeah I dont understand subbing him early. He certainly hasn't had too much rugby, he has had a couple of games to get some match fitness, and zero to gain by playing TJP. Maybe a niggle, or maybe it points to them already deciding they are starting him next week, because otherwise there seems no upside.

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    @brodean said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Chris-B

    Riccitelli is the same weight as Taylor.

    Yes.

    Watch him get interviewed by Jeff Wilson and Google will tell you he's nearly as tall as Jeff.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:

    Yeah - but, there's only a handful.

    Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.

    That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

    I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.

    At the moment we're losing matches and missing opportunities to develop newbies.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:

    Yeah - but, there's only a handful.

    Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.

    That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

    I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.

    At the moment we're losing matches and missing opportunities to develop newbies.

    Uhhhh....hello.....we've won 3 in a row.....

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    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:

    Yeah - but, there's only a handful.

    Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.

    That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

    I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.

    At the moment we're losing matches and missing opportunities to develop newbies.

    Uhhhh....hello.....we've won 3 in a row.....

    Winning the easy ones. Flat track bullies.

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    @Chris-B Most of the NZ hookers aren't tall (< 1.83 m), and that includes those in the ABs. Some are obviously much bigger/heavier than others (ST). It's why Thompson could have been an interesting long-term option as he is a similar build to Marx. Slater is also on the taller side (1.86 m).

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    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:

    Yeah - but, there's only a handful.

    Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.

    That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

    I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.

    At the moment we're losing matches and missing opportunities to develop newbies.

    Uhhhh....hello.....we've won 3 in a row.....

    Yep, we're really on a roll. Even put 20 points on the 10th placed Test team a few weeks back...

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    My dear, In the midst of hate, I found there was, within me, an invincible love. In the midst of tears, I found there was, within me, an invincible smile. In the midst of chaos, I found there was, within me, an invincible calm. I realized, through it all, that… In the midst of winter, I found there was, within me, an invincible summer. And that makes me happy. For it says that no matter how hard the world pushes against me, within me, there’s something stronger – something better, pushing right back. Truly yours, Albert Camus

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Japan:

    Yeah - but, there's only a handful.

    Cane and Perenara have already announced that they're gone - and there's only a handful of others who are possibly too old to go to the next world cup. Taylor, Tuúngafasi, Tuipolotu, Beauden, Havili, Reece and Telea.

    That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

    I don't want to lose matches to develop newbies this year.

    At the moment we're losing matches and missing opportunities to develop newbies.

    Uhhhh....hello.....we've won 3 in a row.....

    Yep, we're really on a roll. Even put 20 points on the 10th placed Test team a few weeks back...

    Spain, Portugal, Romania and Wales will be breathing a sigh of relief that we won't get our hands on them!

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Chris-B Most of the NZ hookers aren't tall (< 1.83 m), and that includes those in the ABs. Some are obviously much bigger/heavier than others (ST). It's why Thompson could have been an interesting long-term option as he is a similar build to Marx. Slater is also on the taller side (1.86 m).

    I'm all for it - taller and bigger hookers.

    But the coaches have told us for years that they try to pack on as much as weight as possible - especially in the tight forwards - without compromising performance elsewhere.

    The harsh reality is that you can't make short hookers much bigger. That's a huge problem for Ricky and Kurt - among others.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks EOYT:

    My dear, In the midst of hate, I found there was, within me, an invincible love. In the midst of tears, I found there was, within me, an invincible smile. In the midst of chaos, I found there was, within me, an invincible calm. I realized, through it all, that… In the midst of winter, I found there was, within me, an invincible summer. And that makes me happy. For it says that no matter how hard the world pushes against me, within me, there’s something stronger – something better, pushing right back. Truly yours, Albert Camus

    I guess that rules out England for Hoskins.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

    That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

    I am not convinced he is the man for the present.

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    @nzzp said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @MN5 Who the hell wrote that jizz soaked drivel?

    AI

    Either that or trawl thru the old Foster v Razor threads

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    Creevy was apparently 1.81 metres tall.

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

    That's about 10 players though. And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

    I am not convinced he is the man for the present.

    Weirdest selection of the lot. Zero logic.

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    replied to African Monkey on last edited by
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    @African-Monkey

    Against Australia and Japan. The sides ranked 10th and 14th in the world. Wippee-do!

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    replied to Victor Meldrew on last edited by Chris B.
    #844

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

    And I'm not convinced Havili is the man for the future...

    I don't expect Dave to make the next RWC either.

    But for now, the third best second five that's not him hasn't yet stamped his mark, so in the meantime I'm happy enough to have him there.

    They're going to pick Jordie, Reiko and ALB for the next three tests, barring injury - and Dave and Proctor seem like the next best cover to me.

    We can play another round of Super mrugby and see who stamps themselves in.

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    #845

    "the third best second five"

    Still waiting for them to select A J Lam...

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

    "the third best second five"

    Still waiting for them to select A J Lam...

    How many Super matches has AJ started at 12?

    Is it more the 17 tests Dave has started at 12?

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