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    @darylmitchell said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Maurice Trapp won 91% of his games with Auckland,

    He had a brilliant record in his first Ak stint 86/90 = 95.5%.

    But he come back for one season after Ak had declined and he had a rubbish record.

    Rugby: Trapp works from bottom of ruck to ARU head - NZ Herald

    In those five years Auckland played 90 games for 86 wins, one draw and three losses - two of the losses when Auckland's large All Black contingent was not available.

    During that time Trapp's side won all their 38 Ranfurly Shield defences, as part of Auckland's fabulous 61 successful defences between 1985 and 1993.

    Trapp returned briefly as Auckland selector-coach when Graham Henry left in mid-season for Wales in 1998, and is a member of the ARU board.

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    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Tony brown turned down Razor in 2019 to be part of his AB coaching bid to stay with JJ and Japan.

    He didn't turn him down so much as said he would stay with just the JJ team. I didn't get the impression he was anti Robertson just loyal to JJ

    But that was then. He was obviously open to offers when Robertson was appointed.

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    @Winger said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Tony brown turned down Razor in 2019 to be part of his AB coaching bid to stay with JJ and Japan.

    He didn't turn him down so much as said he would stay with just the JJ team. I didn't get the impression he was anti Robertson just loyal to JJ

    But that was then. He was obviously open to offers when Robertson was appointed.

    Yeah, it's rather frustrating they couldn't at least try to make room for Tony Brown (who was off contract in 2024 after finishing up with Japan) considering how they could found room for 8 other assistants of various convoluted descriptions Lol...

    It seems to me that if Razor wanted it to happen enough he and Mark Robinson could've made a genuine attempt to get him but Brown simply wasn't part of the 'crew' being ex-Crusaders players or coaches, including the lineout and contact skills coaches Ellison and Flynn.

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    Shit I didn't realise Flynn was the lineout coach. Brilliant.

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    @sparky Doesn’t even make sense.

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    I was really hoping for some innovation with the new coaching staff.
    But we are now on game 4 and I have seen nothing yet. Super disappointed, might as well have just kept the fat man.
    Just hope this game we see some kind of plan and direction.
    Some little pop passes at the line, some backline moves, aggressive cleanouts, just show us something.

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    @Darren like at the world cup.

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    @Winger said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Tony brown turned down Razor in 2019 to be part of his AB coaching bid to stay with JJ and Japan.

    He didn't turn him down so much as said he would stay with just the JJ team. I didn't get the impression he was anti Robertson just loyal to JJ

    But that was then. He was obviously open to offers when Robertson was appointed.

    Well he did turn him down because he didn’t join him. Doesn’t matter what the reason was for turning him down.

    We have said exactly the same thing basically.

    You just never know how Robertson took that or it meant he wouldn’t approach him again or he rates the other guys higher than Brown….who knows?

    Tony Brown has a big rep but as I said in another post is it really justified? (Genuine question as I haven’t seen a lot of Tony brown sides)

    Boks look good at the moment though….

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    @darylmitchell said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Winger said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Tony brown turned down Razor in 2019 to be part of his AB coaching bid to stay with JJ and Japan.

    He didn't turn him down so much as said he would stay with just the JJ team. I didn't get the impression he was anti Robertson just loyal to JJ

    But that was then. He was obviously open to offers when Robertson was appointed.

    Yeah, it's rather frustrating they couldn't at least try to make room for Tony Brown (who was off contract in 2024 after finishing up with Japan) considering how they could found room for 8 other assistants of various convoluted descriptions Lol...

    It seems to me that if Razor wanted it to happen enough he and Mark Robinson could've made a genuine attempt to get him but Brown simply wasn't part of the 'crew' being ex-Crusaders players or coaches, including the lineout and contact skills coaches Ellison and Flynn.

    Well in fairness, Robertson should be allowed to pick his team he wants and the team that has had a lot of success with.

    If you look at elite football managers they do the same thing. A whole team of coaches etc are part of the package.

    When Klopp left Liverpool it meant around 20 people left too as they were part of Klopp team and slot (the new mgr would bring his own team in).

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    I yearn for the days where we had a fullback that scored tries.

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    @Jet said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    I yearn for the days where we had a fullback that scored tries.

    or created tries

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Jet said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    I yearn for the days where we had a fullback that scored tries.

    or created tries

    I guess you missed the England Tests

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    @MiketheSnow that was great...but it hardly become a regular site over the last few years

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    So very close to knowing who is carrying the can from last week, and whether they can somehow make a decent forward pack out of their shambles of a loose forwards squad selection.

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    All Blacks team named
    All Blacks: 15. Beauden Barrett, 14. Will Jordan, 13. Rieko Ioane, 12. Jordie Barrett, 11. Caleb Clarke, 10. Damian McKenzie, 9. TJ Perenara, 8. Ardie Savea (c), 7. Dalton Papali’i, 6. Ethan Blackadder, 5. Sam Darry, 4. Tupou Vaa’i, 3. Tyrel Lomax, 2. Codie Taylor, 1. Tamaiti Williams

    Reserves: 16. Asafo Aumua, 17. Ofa Tu’ungafasi, 18. Fletcher Newell, 19. Josh Lord, 20. Sam Cane, 21. Cortez Ratima, 22. Anton Lienert-Brown, 23. Mark Tele’a

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    If we lose this week with that team, there will be a lot of faith lost in these coaches... just doubling down on team Cantab.

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    Lol Perenara

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    Damn, TJ is still starting, I wish Cortez got the gig. I'd really would have liked to see Jordan get a run at 15 and have Beaudy as the impact sub. Seems like another meh team, hope these guys can bar the f up.

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    We've picked four opensides. Unbelievable.

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    They're either very confident in doubling down with that loose forward trio, or they're on track for Robertson to be the first one-year All Blacks coach of the modern era.

    So far, watching Ethan Blackadder at Test level is like watching Internet Explorer trying to keep up in 2024.

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