All Blacks vs England I

[Kiwiwomble]

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

Ofa - Blues
Scooter - Saders
Jordie - Canes
Cane - Chiefs

This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

cant get cards if you dont have anyone playing

[Kruse]

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs England I:

@Winger Has any team ever been scared of a jersey??

Every NZer, terrified about a return of a grey alternative jersey.

[KiwiMurph]

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs England I:

I think we starting to see NZR (and Razors etc) setting a more professional/marketing orientated plans with ABs

Agreed. There's another video coming out tonight about the 2024 ABs on YouTube / NZR+

[KiwiMurph]

The match is a confirmed sell out.

Excellent

[ACT Crusader]

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

The match is a confirmed sell out.

Excellent

So less than 800 or 600 tickets is still correct….

[nzzp]

@ACT-Crusader outstanding Ferning

[booboo]

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

The match is a confirmed sell out.

Excellent

So less than 800 or 600 tickets is still correct….

Nearly #booboo'ed. Glad I checked.

[Old Samurai Jack]

Sell out crowd under the roof. A new beginning. A new-look team. What is not to like? Bloody excited about this one.
I think they got the loose forward mix right. Hopefully, Finau cuts people in half and creates doubt about running at our fringes like Kaino / Collins eras.
Pat T has something to prove at test level. Someone needs to stitch a Blues jersey to the inside of the AB one. It looks like he has come of age though. Fingers crossed.
All I ask is some kind of tactical plan, some innovation, basically something to forget the recent "lost years".

[mikedogz]

Via Database:

This is the first time the All Blacks have had no Test debutants in their First Test of the season for 35 years.
Last having none in 1989.
0- 1985, 1989, 2024 *
1- 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1999, 2007, 2011, 2013, 2018, 2023
2- 1987, 1994, 1996, 2008, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2022
3- 1992, 1995, 1998, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2009, 2012, 2020
4- 1997, 2000, 2005, 2015, 2019, 2021
5-
6- 2010
7-
8-
9-
10-
11- 1986

[DaGrubster]

@Smuts

Easy to get a chance to try for a black belt at least.

Not for poor old Siya. He did everything he could in the final to get one but the judges were under orders to not let it happen🤷

[Kiwiwomble]

@mikedogz said in All Blacks vs England I:

Via Database:

This is the first time the All Blacks have had no Test debutants in their First Test of the season for 35 years.
Last having none in 1989.
0- 1985, 1989, 2024 *
1- 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1999, 2007, 2011, 2013, 2018, 2023
2- 1987, 1994, 1996, 2008, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2022
3- 1992, 1995, 1998, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2009, 2012, 2020
4- 1997, 2000, 2005, 2015, 2019, 2021
5-
6- 2010
7-
8-
9-
10-
11- 1986

interesting stat given its the year after a RWC and i always kind of think thats when we would have the most turn over

[Bones]

@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs England I:

@mikedogz said in All Blacks vs England I:

Via Database:

This is the first time the All Blacks have had no Test debutants in their First Test of the season for 35 years.
Last having none in 1989.
0- 1985, 1989, 2024 *
1- 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1999, 2007, 2011, 2013, 2018, 2023
2- 1987, 1994, 1996, 2008, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2022
3- 1992, 1995, 1998, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2009, 2012, 2020
4- 1997, 2000, 2005, 2015, 2019, 2021
5-
6- 2010
7-
8-
9-
10-
11- 1986

interesting stat given its the year after a RWC and i always kind of think thats when we would have the most turn over

Probably also when you look to have those guys in the team who've typically played second fiddle as you can't slot debutantes in between your experienced/superstar players.

[Tim]

@mikedogz In how many of those years did we play a team like Tonga in the first test?

[nzzp]

@Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:

@mikedogz In how many of those years did we play a team like Tonga in the first test?

I looked up 2010 with six debutants - not sure I could pick them all from the lineup though!

Edit and it was Ireland in New Plymouth. Heaslip red card for kneeing McCaw, O'Gara yellow for taking out player. not a good day for Ireland.

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[mariner4life]

Brisbane Ferners

Which are the rugby pubs these days? Normanby?

[Unite]

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

Brisbane Ferners

Which are the rugby pubs these days? Normanby?

Regatta is generally a safe bet, their website indicates that are showing it, whether the sound will be on is another story…

Main Bar | Regatta Hotel

[antipodean]

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

Brisbane Ferners

Which are the rugby pubs these days? Normanby?

Port Office
Regatta
Caxton
Criterion
Stock Exchange
Brekky Creek

Screens are one thing, sound is something different.

[Frank]

What's the referee for this match like?
Any opinions?

[MiketheSnow]

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

The match is a confirmed sell out.

Excellent

About fucking time

[No Quarter]

We went straight into the test series against Ireland with no warm up games either, if memory serves me correct. Last year we went straight into the RC without any warm ups, though that was a condensed year due to the RWC.

I feel like we are giving the Northern sides an advantage by not scheduling a warm up against at least one of the Island nations. It also gives them a chance to play a tier 1 side more regularly so win win.