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    @Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:

    So, the differences from teams predicted before Super Rugby are due to injury (Jordan, Roigard, Taukei'aho) other than Perofeta and Jacobson?

    I reckon form came into the equation for Tuipulotu. Losing two locks that were basically guaranteed in the 23 if fit, there were two fringe locks in Vaa’i and Tuipulotu. For me they went with the player in form plus a bit of experience. I’m not sure he would’ve been first choice as a starter given his international record to date but a definite in the 23.

    Razor is a big fan of Jacobson, so I’m not too surprised by his selection on the bench.

    Agree on Perofeta.

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    Would have liked to see us be a bit more adventerous and have a loose forward trio of Finau, Savea at 7 and Sititi but can understand the selection. Finau, Papps and Savea is a good line up.

    TJ back in the team is great for the autobiography but a step backwards for the AB's I feel, would have been better as an impact player to help close out games rather than starting by throwing the ball at DMac's ankles for 60 minutes but we'll see how he goes.

    Perofeta I've never been overly sold on so will be interesting to watch him play.

    Overall a good squad, understandable selections albiet conservative.

    If I was England I'd put pressure on TJ and the first reciever and bomb Perofeta all day till he cracks.

    But looking forward to this team playing and what sytle Robertson brings.

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    Pretty similar to a Foster team IMO, understandable with the short lead up but still feels a bit meh.

    Hope to see a better game plan, but I suspect we are going to see kick and hope, and tackle the counter attack.

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    This year's SR most exciting players are not among the 23 for various reasons (Numia, Sititi, Sotutu, Roigard, Ratima, Proctor, Love). Perofeta aside, this first 23 looks solid but rather meh, IMO.

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    @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England I:

    Pretty similar to a Foster team IMO, understandable with the short lead up but still feels a bit meh.

    Foster would 100% have started Beauden.

    He would have started Cane, if that was an option. As captain.

    He seemed to strongly favour Vaa'i over Tuipolotu.

    I'm not sure he would have started Reece either.

    Definitely Blackadder, but is he fit?

    Towards the end Foster started to get the team mostly right (forced by injuries generally) so really it isn't a surprise that the team isn't radically different. The game plan is what will matter, not the personnel. That is particularly important with DMc, who he never really had a game plan for at all.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

    I love we are talking about Finau's mythical red card risk compared to, say, the very real red card risk of the fucking captain? Fucking cantabs circling the wagons, and whiny 'canes fans.

    Though, after Jacobson got car5ded because he tackled with force, maybe you whiny bitches are right, and rugby really is a game for faeries now.

    Who is fucking bitching I mention he is a potential Red card and he will be.
    I would still pick him I like his intimation factor now you are circling the Chiefs wagons Sir Duke.

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    50/50

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    @Chris I know you weren't against Finau mate, but genuinely every player is a red card risk really with the laws as they are. I not convinced that Finau is anymore a risk than any other forward really!

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    @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Chris I know you weren't against Finau mate, but genuinely every player is a red card risk really with the laws as they are. I not convinced that Finau is anymore a risk than any other forward really!

    I think he is a bit more with all that stupid negative stuff in the Australian media after a couple of hits has blown up and highlighted it.

    I hope he doesn't get red carded I want to win test matches.

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    @frugby

    Father McKenzie!?

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    Pretty much continuity-Foster as expected, which is understandable in many ways.

    Perofeta a surprise but makes sense if they think BB is lacking big-match fitness. Worry he's a bit flaky but let's see how he goes. Could be just holding the paper bag until Jordan returns.

    As other have said, how they play will be something to watch. I don't expect too much change there either.

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    Very disappointed to see Perenara and Christie in the same 23 but otherwise it's about as good as we currently have on offer. Wouldn't have minded seeing ALB/Proctor at centre with Ioane on the bench but not surprised.

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:

    Any word on injuries?

    Blackadder I assume

    😲

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350331522/why-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-demoted-veteran-beauden-barrett

    Scott ‘both sides of the ball’ Robertson talking up Sevu Reece

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    @No-Quarter So long as folding them at waist, worst case penalty.

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    Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

    Ofa - Blues
    Scooter - Saders
    Jordie - Canes
    Cane - Chiefs

    This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

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    @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Chris I know you weren't against Finau mate, but genuinely every player is a red card risk really with the laws as they are. I not convinced that Finau is anymore a risk than any other forward really!

    I think he is a bit more with all that stupid negative stuff in the Australian media after a couple of hits has blown up and highlighted it.

    I hope he doesn't get red carded I want to win test matches.

    To be honest there has basically been none over here. He was seen as doing what we have always applauded as a 6, hitting 10s hard! I do think 1 was a tad late, but nowhere as bad as what was made out by Aua press!

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

    Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

    Ofa - Blues
    Scooter - Saders
    Jordie - Canes
    Cane - Chiefs

    This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

    I think it’s a good reason not to select Beauden Barrett and why he’s on the bench. Brain fades tend to run in the family

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    I like Razor having a proper press conference with journos on team naming and not a premade internally produced video.

    Good shit

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