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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

    I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.

    Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.

    Yeah bring back Frizell and his amazing disciplinary record... or the captain's amazing disciplinary record....

    Oh wait....

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

    I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.

    Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.

    Yeah bring back Frizell and his amazing disciplinary record... or the captain's amazing disciplinary record....

    Oh wait....

    Ok then 2 red cards

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    Finau will be fine for the first test... the bigger worry is when Brett Cronan gets involved for the second test.

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    Finau does like to fold backs in half, and there is always risk associated with that if he gets it slightly wrong. And in the modern game, with fans always baying for cards, particularly if it's big man vs little man, it's going to end in yellow or red sooner rather than later. Cards have been a huge issue for the ABs recently so I am hoping this current coaching group can get that part right across the board, not just with Finau.

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    When the fuck is Jordan and Roigard coming back?

    Anyone know? Thx

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    Oh, and I am really looking forward to seeing what Pat T can do. His form this year was outstanding, if he can translate any of that to the test arena he and SB could form a potent combo for us.

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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:

    Oh, and I am really looking forward to seeing what Pat T can do. His form this year was outstanding, if he can translate any of that to the test arena he and SB could form a potent combo for us.

    i really hope so, he's had a few chances before thought so im not holding my breath

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    @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

    I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.

    Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.

    Pessimistic. His worst effort was a penalty for being a step late. Home crowd should influence the ref to penalise Marcus.

    It is coming

    Our current captain is a red card coming always so no point making it a bigger issue than it is. (Edit: Missed @KiwiMurph already getting this dig in.) At least we got some practice playing with 14 last year. 😉

    What's the powerball up to in NZ this week? Don't waste your money if Perofeta has a ticket.

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    @mencey said in All Blacks vs England I:

    When the fuck is Jordan and Roigard coming back?

    Anyone know? Thx

    Wouldn't bank on seeing Roigard again this year. Supposedly a six month injury from April, and at that point you have no idea how he recovers, so probably better to just let him get it properly right, easing him back in with Super Rugby.

    Jordan meant to be Rugby Championship.

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    I love we are talking about Finau's mythical red card risk compared to, say, the very real red card risk of the fucking captain? Fucking cantabs circling the wagons, and whiny 'canes fans.

    Though, after Jacobson got car5ded because he tackled with force, maybe you whiny bitches are right, and rugby really is a game for faeries now.

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    @frugby said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @mencey said in All Blacks vs England I:

    When the fuck is Jordan and Roigard coming back?

    Anyone know? Thx

    Wouldn't bank on seeing Roigard again this year. Supposedly a six month injury from April, and at that point you have no idea how he recovers, so probably better to just let him get it properly right, easing him back in with Super Rugby.

    Jordan meant to be Rugby Championship.

    thx. Love them 2

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    @mariner4life Finau is from the old school where forwards would put the fear of life into backs. I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk. And yes SB is a risk in that regard as well. We have to play smarter rugby and avoid having players sent off, it has cost us dearly in recent times. We would have won the RWC final easily if we'd managed to keep Cane and Frizzell on the park the full 80.

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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @mariner4life Finau is from the old school where forwards would put the fear of life into backs. I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk. And yes SB is a risk in that regard as well. We have to play smarter rugby and avoid having players sent off, it has cost us dearly in recent times. We would have won the RWC final easily if we'd managed to keep Cane and Frizzell on the park the full 80.

    Well said. 2 right

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    @Nepia said in All Blacks vs England I:

    What's the powerball up to in NZ this week? Don't waste your money if Perofeta has a ticket.

    I liked the team better when I read it from numbers 1 to 15 than my initial reading of 15 to 1.

    I was very surprised Beaden wasn't starting at 15.

    Beaudy to 10 and DMac to 15 if things are going poorly?

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  • KiwiwombleK Online
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    im more accepting of the risk with finau as he's actually trying to make a game changing move catching a 10 so far behind the line....scotter has dropped his shoulder into a guy lying on the ruck for absolutely no gain

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    Razor's Crusaders generally liked to push the limits with the refs.

    Will be interesting to see how the ABs do under him re: discipline in a test arena with different refs

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  • voodooV Offline
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    Remember the days when our bench was selected for impact and we owned the last 30 minutes?

    That bench just screams injury cover

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:

    I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk

    in the modern game, with World Rugby's misguided quest to prove rugby is safe and for everyone (it's not, and it never has been, and that's its fucking attraction) literally every rugby action is now a card risk when you have four guys pouring over super slow mo looking for transgressions.

    I prefer my risk around making a back have a look over, say, just winning one single ruck.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs England I:

    That jersey is a psychological masterstroke

    Sports jersey colour is a thing for sure. Lots of research been done on it.

    Google throws this up which amuses me:
    Yellow: A cheerful, vibrant color, yellow is associated with enthusiasm and excitement. Australian cricket teams frequently wear yellow uniforms"

    Yellow - not gold.
    There is no comment on Black and I seriously doubt that the English pysche will be affected by a white collar.

    That little distraction aside it will be interesting to see how we front up for this. Our first test of the year is usually shit so seeing how well a Razor coached team shows up will be intriguing. We know how a Stead coached team managed without match prep recently...

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:

    I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk

    in the modern game, with World Rugby's misguided quest to prove rugby is safe and for everyone (it's not, and it never has been, and that's its fucking attraction) literally every rugby action is now a card risk when you have four guys pouring over super slow mo looking for transgressions.

    I prefer my risk around making a back have a look over, say, just winning one single ruck.

    Agree with this, but even you beloved NRL is going the same way. Contact sports are fucked if the NRL is cracking down. What's happening in Origin, if they're cracking down there we may as well all start supporting touch teams.

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