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  • TimT Away
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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350324367/blues-captain-surprised-and-disappointed-hoskins-sotutus-all-blacks-omission

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    @Tim certainly puts a new slant on how he must have been feeling.

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    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Victor-Meldrew

    Yes, you are right it would be.

    Especially under the roof in Dunners. Which should give ideal conditions for us.

    #bringbackFoz

    If we're gonna lose it's probbly going to be the 1st Test. Personally, I think the RC & EOYT are more important.

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    Going to be interesting, thought the poms looked ok v Japan ,
    enough to potentially trouble us if we aren’t switched on anyway

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    @Victor-Meldrew

    Yes, the 1st test is when we will be vulnerable. We have really made it hard for ourselves given the short turnaround between the super final and the 1st test.

    Not making excuses for Razor, this is the type of challenge he should thrive on.

    This series is more important than the eoyt imo. We only have to see what the fallout was like after losing to Ireland in NZ to get a sense of what it will be like. We don’t need a developing crisis for a new mgmt team 2 tests into their reign

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

    It will be interesting to see what differences they attempt to instil from the Fozzie era.

    Desire hopefully.

    There were times under Foster when they didn't seem to care that much. Then when it counted at the RWC they showed up mentally. I'm hoping Razor can get that passion out of them for every match like he seemed to with the 'saders for 7 years in a row.

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    We (NZ) do seem to have an aversion to warm up games don't we? The Black Caps think they are not needed, despite their performances, and I've noticed the days of the ABs playing the Island nations to start the season seem to be over as well. Why would we do that to ourselves?

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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:

    We (NZ) do seem to have an aversion to warm up games don't we? The Black Caps think they are not needed, despite their performances, and I've noticed the days of the ABs playing the Island nations to start the season seem to be over as well. Why would we do that to ourselves?

    Totally agree

    An AB vs AB IX would be fun to watch and serve as a warmup.

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    @Darren said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:

    We (NZ) do seem to have an aversion to warm up games don't we? The Black Caps think they are not needed, despite their performances, and I've noticed the days of the ABs playing the Island nations to start the season seem to be over as well. Why would we do that to ourselves?

    Totally agree

    An AB vs AB IX would be fun to watch and serve as a warmup.

    They might be worried about injuries? But I'd also like to see one...

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

    It will be interesting to see what differences they attempt to instil from the Fozzie era.

    Quite a few according to Leon.

    Seems quite challenging to transition to a new defensive system. You only need a bit of confusion in what someone is supposed to be doing and the whole thing falls apart.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350322243/scott-robertson-coached-all-blacks-bring-new-style-play-table

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    I'd just like us to show patience with the ball in hand getting rid of all the cute 25/75 passes and 20/80 chip kicks. Show some actual depth of clearance on our exits and improved disclipline on defence.

    Though with BB being an intergal part of the team I'm not sure if point 1 or 2 can happen 😞

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    @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs England I:

    I'd just like us to show patience with the ball in hand getting rid of all the cute 25/75 passes and 20/80 chip kicks. Show some actual depth of clearance on our exits and improved disclipline on defence.

    Though with BB being an intergal part of the team I'm not sure if point 1 or 2 can happen 😞

    yeah, less of the do something risky if we dont score after 3-4 phase...have some faith we can keep the ball for long periods

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    Perhaps three playmakers to really confuse the opposition. Also a flat backline so no one knows who is getting the ball.

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    @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs England I:

    Show some actual depth of clearance

    DMac has more distance in his kicks than Mo'unga and BB. They could use JB more for their exits.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs England I:

    Show some actual depth of clearance

    DMac has more distance in his kicks than Mo'unga and BB. They could use JB more for their exits.

    yeah, i thought when JB first came on the scene having a big boot was one of his selling points but dont think we see it as much as i would have liked/thought we would

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs England I:

    I'd just like us to show patience with the ball in hand getting rid of all the cute 25/75 passes and 20/80 chip kicks. Show some actual depth of clearance on our exits and improved disclipline on defence.

    Though with BB being an intergal part of the team I'm not sure if point 1 or 2 can happen 😞

    yeah, less of the do something risky if we dont score after 3-4 phase...have some faith we can keep the ball for long periods

    Kick deeper, get away from our end and play down there

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs England I:

    Show some actual depth of clearance

    DMac has more distance in his kicks than Mo'unga and BB. They could use JB more for their exits.

    Not quite a #booboo but same sentiment

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    @booboo said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs England I:

    I'd just like us to show patience with the ball in hand getting rid of all the cute 25/75 passes and 20/80 chip kicks. Show some actual depth of clearance on our exits and improved disclipline on defence.

    Though with BB being an intergal part of the team I'm not sure if point 1 or 2 can happen 😞

    yeah, less of the do something risky if we dont score after 3-4 phase...have some faith we can keep the ball for long periods

    Kick deeper, get away from our end and play down there

    madness! more bombs and crossfield kick passes inside our own 22 i say!

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @booboo said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs England I:

    I'd just like us to show patience with the ball in hand getting rid of all the cute 25/75 passes and 20/80 chip kicks. Show some actual depth of clearance on our exits and improved disclipline on defence.

    Though with BB being an intergal part of the team I'm not sure if point 1 or 2 can happen 😞

    yeah, less of the do something risky if we dont score after 3-4 phase...have some faith we can keep the ball for long periods

    Kick deeper, get away from our end and play down there

    madness! more bombs and crossfield kick passes inside our own 22 i say!

    More miracle plays on attack for me, a maximum of 4 phases and if we haven't scored it's miracle play time, regardless of where we are on the field.

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    @booboo said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs England I:

    I'd just like us to show patience with the ball in hand getting rid of all the cute 25/75 passes and 20/80 chip kicks. Show some actual depth of clearance on our exits and improved disclipline on defence.

    Though with BB being an intergal part of the team I'm not sure if point 1 or 2 can happen 😞

    yeah, less of the do something risky if we dont score after 3-4 phase...have some faith we can keep the ball for long periods

    Kick deeper, get away from our end and play down there

    Back to traditional values (a bit like the Blues this season....)

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