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    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I'd give Sotutu one cap in the Rugby Championship just to make England wait longer.

    If he’s next cab off the rank,

    Good chance he might get an opportunity anyway , it’s a big season

    This can be seen as a test for Hoss. Judging by Razor’s speech on stage his mental toughness is questioned.

    Get back on horse. Play the house down in NPC, and await the EOYT call.

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    Disappointed to see Perofeta in ahead of Plummer and Love, and Bell in ahead of Riccy. Tough on Sotutu also.
    But I expect Perofeta, Bell, TJP, Blackadder and Jacobsen might just be placeholders until the guns are available. Don't get the huge disdain for Sam Cane. Hoping he will rejoin the squad with Jordan, Cam and Sami.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I'd give Sotutu one cap in the Rugby Championship just to make England wait longer.

    If he’s next cab off the rank,

    Good chance he might get an opportunity anyway , it’s a big season

    This can be seen as a test for Hoss. Judging by Razor’s speech on stage his mental toughness is questioned.

    Get back on horse. Play the house down in NPC, and await the EOYT call.

    I hope so. The ABs will be better for it

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    These coaches know who is mentally consistent and focused over a whole season or more. They aren't all that interested in a highlights reel.

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    These coaches know who is mentally consistent and focused over a whole season or more. They aren't all that interested in a highlights reel.

    Yeah true, Bell and Sititi have definitely shown that across their storied careers.

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    Others have had 5 years to state their case

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    @MajorRage said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I don't have a view either way on Sotutu vs Sititi but thats mainly because my SR watching this year was the 5 minutes highlights in youtube. Sure, Sotutu scored a lot of tries, but I don't really remember seeing him make a lot of them

    The top try scorer was also second on try assists. On the other side of the ball he got plenty of turnovers too, looking at NZ loosies he was only behind Harmon (equal with Jacobson). Ruck arrivals he is only behind Papali'i and Jacobson in NZ. Decent lineout forward too.. second most used NZ target

    He had a hell of a season

    I'm assuming its personal at some level. MacDonald struggled with him early on.

    As for the rest of the squad it's fairly predictable apart from Tosi. You knew which way Robertson would go on certain players regardless of SR performances

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    These coaches know who is mentally consistent and focused over a whole season or more. They aren't all that interested in a highlights reel.

    Yeah true, Bell and Sititi have definitely shown that across their storied careers.

    except they are younger (22, 21) and will get much better, Sotutu is nearly 27.

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    @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Sotutu is nearly 27

    He's 25

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    @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    These coaches know who is mentally consistent and focused over a whole season or more. They aren't all that interested in a highlights reel.

    Yeah true, Bell and Sititi have definitely shown that across their storied careers.

    except they are younger (22, 21) and will get much better, Sotutu is nearly 27.

    May get better. Sotutu doesn't exactly have a foot in the grave. As Duluth said, the stats don't lie, he was one of the top loosies in SR. It's personal

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    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @MajorRage said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I don't have a view either way on Sotutu vs Sititi but thats mainly because my SR watching this year was the 5 minutes highlights in youtube. Sure, Sotutu scored a lot of tries, but I don't really remember seeing him make a lot of them

    The top try scorer was also second on try assists. On the other side of the ball he got plenty of turnovers too, looking at NZ loosies he was only behind Harmon (equal with Jacobson). Ruck arrivals he is only behind Papali'i and Jacobson in NZ. Decent lineout forward too.. second most used NZ target

    He had a hell of a season

    I'm assuming its personal at some level. MacDonald struggled with him early on.

    As for the rest of the squad it's fairly predictable apart from Tosi. You knew which way Robertson would go on certain players regardless of SR performances

    That shows their excuse for non selection is bogus. Not a great start

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    These coaches know who is mentally consistent and focused over a whole season or more. They aren't all that interested in a highlights reel.

    Yeah true, Bell and Sititi have definitely shown that across their storied careers.

    except they are younger (22, 21) and will get much better, Sotutu is nearly 27.

    May get better. Sotutu doesn't exactly have a foot in the grave. As Duluth said, the stats don't lie, he was one of the top loosies in SR. It's personal

    he has a poor attitude judging by his social media and refused to answer Jason Ryan's phone calls last year, it's time to move on, he's overrated and always has been.

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    @ruggabee Be interesting to hear Vern Cotter's take on Hoskin's attitude.

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    All relationships are personal. Get over it.

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    The loosies that were work horses this year were Dalton, Sotutu, Jacobson.

    I've never been a fan of Jacobson but he lifted his game this year. Very surprised there's room for him and Blackadder in the squad though.

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    Would be interesting who they see as the next 6 from outside the squad (not including Akira or Frizell)

    Flanders? Grace? Haig? Lio-Willie as a 6?

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    @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    he has a poor attitude judging by his social media

    Edited (cheers voodoo)

    Can you show the social media posts showing he has a poor attitude?

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    @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    he has a poor attitude judging by his social media

    Where have you got that from?

    Just guessing, but I’d say his social media?

    🤷🏻‍♂️

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    Wallace-Sititi looks a far better prospect than Sotutu at test level and he's only 21.

    It's clear from the eye test Sititi is going to be a test animal. Sotutu is a show-pony.

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    @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    These coaches know who is mentally consistent and focused over a whole season or more. They aren't all that interested in a highlights reel.

    Yeah true, Bell and Sititi have definitely shown that across their storied careers.

    except they are younger (22, 21) and will get much better, Sotutu is nearly 27.

    Hoss was born in 98?

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