RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks
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@sparky said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Unless the Boks have lots of dry powder hidden away or it’s a French ref, I think the ABs will win.
Speaking of dry powder, I wonder if we will bring back a version of the kicking game we displayed at Mt Smart?
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@Canes4life
If we win it yes best WC for me.
I love seeing people fulfill their potential and it's been great seeing players like Newell, Williams, deGroot, Lomax, JB, Frizzell, Roigard out there playing well.
It's also great that it's clear that head knock prevention is here to stay and everyone has to toe the line.
As always everyone supports the minnows. Good to see Portugal and Fiji going well.
The biggest downer has been the eccentric rule bending traffic light holding time wasting prats that are SA management. They are a blight on the game. Crap like that is not needed and I hope we thrash them by 30. -
Same starting lineup but the bench will be
Coles, Newell, Williams, Laulala, Tu'ungafasi, Whitelock, Papali’i, Christie
Savea covering the backline 😎
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Question for the front row committee/props on here - Bernard Jackman says that Porter demolished Lomax in the QF, but Barnes penalised Porter because of a preconception about Porter.
Given the Bok scrum’s strength, is there any credence to Jackman’s claim? I’m not interested in bagging his claim because he’s Irish, more if he a valid point or not.
“ I think Barnes went into the game with a preconception about Andrew Porter and he refereed like that. We conceded three penalties from the four scrums the All Blacks had and looking back at multiple angles, Barnes was completely wrong on two of them.
Certainly if you look at a screenshot at certain points Porter’s hips are out and he looks like he is driving across. However, if his opposite man, their tighthead Tyrel Lomax, turns in towards our hooker without earning the right to do that by winning his battle with Porter first, then either Porter follows him in and tries to break his ribs like he did or he slips his bind to stay straight but leaves his pack exposed to a weaker scrum that could now go forward.
The most frustrating penalty was when New Zealand had a man in the bin and decided not to bring a centre in for the scrum to go eight v eight or even move their number eight behind Lomax to try and help him. Any good loose head in the world will exploit this mismatch. Lomax was destroyed by Porter, but Barnes penalised Ireland.
For a top class and experienced referee not to see this, especially when they decided to risk seven versus eight, is mind blowing. But to be fair, it’s been a very difficult World Cup for referees and the other officials and will be a big focus for World Rugby over the next cycle.”
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@Jailbreak7 said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
If we want to look at the periphery I think the ABs sent a significant message which will not have been lost on Rassie & co, when they decided not to replace SB after his YC was up, and played out the game with 14 men keeping the scoresheet clean for the entire 2nd half. That's a statement.
Should they be allowed? To voluntarily not replace someone?
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@Billy-Tell said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Jailbreak7 said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
If we want to look at the periphery I think the ABs sent a significant message which will not have been lost on Rassie & co, when they decided not to replace SB after his YC was up, and played out the game with 14 men keeping the scoresheet clean for the entire 2nd half. That's a statement.
Should they be allowed? To voluntarily not replace someone?
Huh? Why not?
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@Bones said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Billy-Tell said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Jailbreak7 said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
If we want to look at the periphery I think the ABs sent a significant message which will not have been lost on Rassie & co, when they decided not to replace SB after his YC was up, and played out the game with 14 men keeping the scoresheet clean for the entire 2nd half. That's a statement.
Should they be allowed? To voluntarily not replace someone?
Huh? Why not?
Fundamentally rugby is a game of 15 vs 15. A team making the decision to deliberately reduce to 14 seems against the spirit of the game. Could we have subbed off another player to finish with 13 in order to give someone a rest? All seems a bit Rassie-like.
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On the rivalry thing ,
The ABs v Boks is unique imo , due to the respect,
Most rivalries involve hatred
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@kiwiinmelb said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
On the rivalry thing ,
The ABs v Boks is unique imo , due to the respect,
Most rivalries involve hatred
Reading this thread, the hatred is left to the fans
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Uh oh. Matt Dawson thinks NZ are favourites in the final.
“New Zealand will be significant favourites. Their semi-final win against Argentina was almost a training run compared to South Africa's slugfest. They have also had an extra day's rest. Their attack is crackling with threat.
A record fourth title is theirs for the taking. There is no hesitation in my mind about that.”
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@Billy-Tell protecting your players from injury and opening up more space on the field, whilst handing the opposition an advantage is against the spirit of rugby? Pretty shithouse spirit then eh.
It's about the complete opposite of Rassie.
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ABs clear favorite given the history of the last 30 years. Just hoping for a competitive showing from the boks, after two super high intensity, physically and mentally draining games. Sure it will be as they respect the ABs and it will be a dream final for them as well. Just not sure they have enough left.
