RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia
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@Mattasaurus said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
Hooper has impressed me in the post match (the way he has handled himself since been dropped actually).
He's a loyal team man, just unfathomable how he was considered surplus to requirements - sure his form wasn't stellar.. but the man oozes leadership
Yeah a RWC is a squad effort, you want guys like Hooper and Cooper (who finally has his head on right) in the squad, mentoring and they would be more than fine versus the minnows. But Eddie thinks they have a defeatist attitude when really they are leaders. As soon as he picked this squad, he shat all over Oz chances to go anywhere in the Cup. But his 'building for the future' BS is also in trouble as it is hard to mentally come back from a 12.5% win ratio and even worse than Foster firsts.
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Awful by the Wallabies. Feel sorry for them. The rushed Eddie Jones appointment was always going to be a disaster. The man is a chancer, an opportunist and a troll. He’s only ever in it for himself. And by deliberately leaving his leaders and more experienced players like Hooper and Cooper at home, he has destroyed the confidence of another generation of players and kicked the corpse of Australian rugby while pocketing the cash. A disgraceful individual.
For the All Blacks, the truth is that New Zealand’s deterioration is directly related to the demise of the game in Australia. Losing South Africa in Super Rugby and leaving our teams to play lopsided flat-track bully games against weak Australian sides has de-powered them. Both NZ and Australia suffer from huge discipline issues and that’s clearly related.
With all the money and talent and broadcast dollars drifting to the northern hemisphere, it’s hard not to think that under Robertson’s regime the NZR will drop the overseas players ban completely.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
Puts our Bledisloe dominance into perspective. It would be tempting to mock this situation if it wasn't so sad and pathetic. It would be like insulting a vegetable in a wheelchair
We didn't dominate the Bledisloe this year. Things may be worse for us than we think.
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@Billy-Tell said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
A stopped clock is right twice a day. Campese is exactly the kind of person who shouldn’t be anywhere near ARU management.
Well at least he's doing some thinking and looking at the deeper problems and hasn't simply fallen for the magic solution of swapping the coach for the next wonder coach.
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@Crazy-Horse yeah it's kind of like there are two canaries in the coal mine, not just one! SA have been looking northwards for a while and if the calibre of southern hemisphere rugby is dropping that's another factor alongside $$ and time-zone fit.
Can't see Jones hanging around - he's fallen on his sword, somewhat fitting as isn't he looking/interviewing for coaching gigs in Japan? For all the shit he talks at times he has taken the blame and responsibility for the horrid (short) campaign.
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@Dan54 said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
Well a lot of roosters are coming home to roost unfortunatley, and I get no joy in seeing it.!
The whole RA thing has ben cause this.
Eddie Jones was pulled in late,then said he was picking young fellas who hadn't learnt to lose, and has now taught them to be losers!
And I listening to Stephen Hoiles saying now again (and correctly) that having 5 teams in super is spreading talent to thin and having to buy in players from overseas etc.
They are 2 that come to mind.Hoiles was expressing the opinion that most NZers had re expansion at the time, i.e. they simply didn't have the depth. That was rubbished by Wallabies supporters. Dickheads.
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@KiwiMurph said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
What's crazy is Aus went from 3 teams in 2005 to 5 teams in 2011. They didn't even give the Force a decent runway to see if 4 teams would work.
Yeah, bouncing the number of teams up and down has been a disaster for Aus. The number of fans in WA and Melb who've been burned by this has done damage.
A knee jerk reaction to cull them again would probably do more harm than good. There is a lot more smart and strategic thinking that needs to happen before making the same mistakes again.
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@His-Bobness said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
With all the money and talent and broadcast dollars drifting to the northern hemisphere, it’s hard not to think that under Robertson’s regime the NZR will drop the overseas players ban completely.
NZR don't even need to consider doing this yet.
It would finish super rugby as a status competition for starters. Maybe the only main hope for NZ rugby is for the clowns in Aust to sort themselves out. To start, find some good leaders that are willing to make some hard decisions. And work with NZ in a profession manner.
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Tin foil hat time, but you'd be forgiven for believing that once Eddie realised the true magnitude of the train wreck he'd agreed to fix that he was basically trying to get sacked to get the much easier Japan gig. He rolls the dice with his young team and if it pays off he's a hero, but if it's a disaster, he gets the arse with pay and can then move to Tokyo.
Yes tin foil, but his contact with Japan doesn't indicate he was committing to the long-term, or even the medium term for that matter.
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Surprised that Japan would want him.
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Don't think the ARU can afford to sack him (and all his assistants). Either he stays, or they come to some "leaving by mutual agreement" arrangement with a greatly reduced payout.
But who would want him now?
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@Mattasaurus said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
Hooper has impressed me in the post match (the way he has handled himself since been dropped actually).
He's a loyal team man, just unfathomable how he was considered surplus to requirements - sure his form wasn't stellar.. but the man oozes leadership
I thought he was injured? Calf strain if I remember?
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@Darren said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
@Mattasaurus said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
Hooper has impressed me in the post match (the way he has handled himself since been dropped actually).
He's a loyal team man, just unfathomable how he was considered surplus to requirements - sure his form wasn't stellar.. but the man oozes leadership
I thought he was injured? Calf strain if I remember?
He was injured but would have been fit during the tournament. Same as Jorgensen who made the squad.
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@KiwiMurph said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
Good to see some direct questions around the Japan thing - the bloke who asked him if he has a 2nd interview lined up won't be on Eddie's Xmas card list
Poor Dave sitting there through that - just one question directed at him, and it was about Eddie!
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