Jonathan Sexton's conduct
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@Smudge said in Jonathan Sexton's conduct:
Fuck me days. Why do we always go through this fucking rigmarole every time mitigation gets mentioned either in rugby judiciary cases or actual judiciary cases. It's a standard part of sentencing/sanctioning.
Has he been done for this type of misconduct before? No? In which case, that's a mitigating factor.
He pleaded guilty = a further mitigating factor.
Read page 33 re mitigation if you get round to putting down the pitchforks.
Don't be a party pooper, this is no time for rationalism!
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@Tim although if he apologised would he really have been upset with the outcome?
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@taniwharugby said in Jonathan Sexton's conduct:
@Tim although if he apologised would he really have been upset with the outcome?
Is it really an apology if it's just for mitigation, and therefore is no longer a mitigating factor?
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@Smudge said in Jonathan Sexton's conduct:
Fuck me days. Why do we always go through this fucking rigmarole every time mitigation gets mentioned either in rugby judiciary cases or actual judiciary cases. It's a standard part of sentencing/sanctioning.
Has he been done for this type of misconduct before? No? In which case, that's a mitigating factor.
He pleaded guilty = a further mitigating factor.
Read page 33 re mitigation if you get round to putting down the pitchforks.
Some actions which have wide ranging, long term implications don't merit mitigation
Needs to be nipped in the bud, otherwise football ensues
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@MiketheSnow said in Jonathan Sexton's conduct:
@Smudge said in Jonathan Sexton's conduct:
Fuck me days. Why do we always go through this fucking rigmarole every time mitigation gets mentioned either in rugby judiciary cases or actual judiciary cases. It's a standard part of sentencing/sanctioning.
Has he been done for this type of misconduct before? No? In which case, that's a mitigating factor.
He pleaded guilty = a further mitigating factor.
Read page 33 re mitigation if you get round to putting down the pitchforks.
Some actions which have wide ranging, long term implications don't merit mitigation
Needs to be nipped in the bud, otherwise football ensues
Completely agree, though more for a wider discussion., which I’m thinking is your point.
Sexton is just playing the game, as many have done before. No surprises there or with the outcome.
Looking at that wider issue though, we all know that what goes on at the top level gets emulated all the way down the line. We have trouble getting enough refs as it is, they need to be a protected species from the top to the bottom.
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I don't think we need to whip him from Dublin to Galway for this - Tullamore is quite far enough.
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Totally agree. But it's RWC year and he's a key player. And that just wouldn't do, would it? An opportunity to send a message missed.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Jonathan Sexton's conduct:
Totally agree. But it's RWC year and he's a key player. And that just wouldn't do, would it? An opportunity to send a message missed.
It’s the judiciary. Their accuracy is up there with Imperial Stormtroopers.
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@MajorPom said in Jonathan Sexton's conduct:
The walrus is furious.
Thinks it should be 6 months at least.
I agree with him.
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It's ridiculous that an apology can be deemed a mitigating factor. It should be part of the sentence.
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@canefan said in Jonathan Sexton's conduct:
Why is being a fluffybunny a mitigating factor?
Are you new to the fern?
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Why did Sexton get only three weeks when Dylan Hartley got 11 weeks for something very similar?
Dylan Hartley out of Lions tour after being handed 11-week ban
Dylan Hartley will miss the Lions tour to Australia after receiving an 11-week suspension and has been replaced by Rory Best
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Jonathan Sexton's conduct:
I don't think we need to whip him from Dublin to Galway for this - Tullamore is quite far enough.
If he ends up in tullamore that’s more than enough punishment. That place is a shîthole.
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That's an interesting one is't it? At the time I thought Hartley hard done by as whilst he did call someone "a fucking cheat", it was pretty hard to be definite it was aimed at Barnes.
On the other hand Hartley was hardly unknown to the judiciary and had previously pushed an official in anger.
However, I thought on balance he was hard done by in that particular instance.
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@sparky although I don’t necessarily have too much issue with the process and ban this incident was the first one I thought of.
Hartley could certainly argue he wasn’t talking to the ref too …. Which sexton couldn’t.
Sheesh don’t make me agree with the rus
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