All Blacks 2023
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Stop bringing facts to discussions on the Fern. You have been warned.
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@Crazy-Horse "Awful analysis, incorrect conclusions, zero insight. Wrong about pretty much everything"
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:
@Crazy-Horse "Awful analysis, incorrect conclusions, zero insight. Wrong about pretty much everything"
I don't have a tattoo... but if I did
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:
@Crazy-Horse "Awful analysis, incorrect conclusions, zero insight. Wrong about pretty much everything"
You say that, but I've watched NZ rugby shows like The Breakdown.
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@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2023:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:
@Crazy-Horse "Awful analysis, incorrect conclusions, zero insight. Wrong about pretty much everything"
You say that, but I've watched NZ rugby shows like The Breakdown.
Christ, compared to the professional pundits we're Nostril-bloody-damus
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@MN5 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Bones said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
Reckon he'd be an excellent "Kahui" even.
Injured all the time ?
At least he had Beaver’s phone number in his back pocket.
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@Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
There are still some big games to come and the likes of Goodhue, Heem, Ennor, LF could either confirm or deny their own destiny.
Without injury the only spot available would be a Utility one, a midfield/wing.J.Barrett, Ioane, Proctor, Heem, ALB.
Havili & Ennor shouldn't be in the conversation.
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@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
There are still some big games to come and the likes of Goodhue, Heem, Ennor, LF could either confirm or deny their own destiny.
Without injury the only spot available would be a Utility one, a midfield/wing.J.Barrett, Ioane, Proctor, Heem, ALB.
Havili & Ennor shouldn't be in the conversation.
Havili might have ruled himself out if his hammy injury is bad.
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@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
There are still some big games to come and the likes of Goodhue, Heem, Ennor, LF could either confirm or deny their own destiny.
Without injury the only spot available would be a Utility one, a midfield/wing.J.Barrett, Ioane, Proctor, Heem, ALB.
Havili & Ennor shouldn't be in the conversation.
Havili and ALB will be there because Foster.....Dont see Heem and Proctor getting a look in.
He won't roll those dice.
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@Steve said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
There are still some big games to come and the likes of Goodhue, Heem, Ennor, LF could either confirm or deny their own destiny.
Without injury the only spot available would be a Utility one, a midfield/wing.J.Barrett, Ioane, Proctor, Heem, ALB.
Havili & Ennor shouldn't be in the conversation.
Havili and ALB will be there because Foster.....Dont see Heem and Proctor getting a look in.
He won't roll those dice.
Are we seriously questioning ALB? Highly experienced and proven at both 12 and 13 in tests. Probably reads defence better than any of the candidates.
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@Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Steve said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
There are still some big games to come and the likes of Goodhue, Heem, Ennor, LF could either confirm or deny their own destiny.
Without injury the only spot available would be a Utility one, a midfield/wing.J.Barrett, Ioane, Proctor, Heem, ALB.
Havili & Ennor shouldn't be in the conversation.
Havili and ALB will be there because Foster.....Dont see Heem and Proctor getting a look in.
He won't roll those dice.
Are we seriously questioning ALB? Highly experienced and proven at both 12 and 13 in tests. Probably reads defence better than any of the candidates.
He won’t let us down. But he won’t win us the cup either. Just too Vanilla for me. Opposition D won’t worry about him at all.
Rieko for all his faults gives them kittens. He’s not a centres arsehole but his pace is an equaliser.
ALB is a selection when you go out there to not lose. But at some point we need to go out and WIN it.
Himself and Goodhue together still turns my stomach.
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@Steve said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Steve said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
There are still some big games to come and the likes of Goodhue, Heem, Ennor, LF could either confirm or deny their own destiny.
Without injury the only spot available would be a Utility one, a midfield/wing.J.Barrett, Ioane, Proctor, Heem, ALB.
Havili & Ennor shouldn't be in the conversation.
Havili and ALB will be there because Foster.....Dont see Heem and Proctor getting a look in.
He won't roll those dice.
Are we seriously questioning ALB? Highly experienced and proven at both 12 and 13 in tests. Probably reads defence better than any of the candidates.
He won’t let us down. But he won’t win us the cup either. Just too Vanilla for me. Opposition D won’t worry about him at all.
Rieko for all his faults gives them kittens. He’s not a centres arsehole but his pace is an equaliser.
ALB is a selection when you go out there to not lose. But at some point we need to go out and WIN it.
Himself and Goodhue together still turns my stomach.
Thing is, though - you don't need 15 excitement machines to win a World Cup. You need a lot of guys who will do their job and nullify the opposition. When you start "rolling the dice", you quickly find the flawed guys who won't do their job and will lose us the Cup.
Here's our 2011 squad. A lot of guys who were middle-of-the-road ABs and actually pretty short on game-breakers and excitement machines.
Remembering the All Blacks 2011 Rugby World Cup squad
Labour Weekend 10 years ago saw New Zealanders focused on one event, the Rugby World Cup final in Auckland.
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@Steve said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Steve said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
There are still some big games to come and the likes of Goodhue, Heem, Ennor, LF could either confirm or deny their own destiny.
Without injury the only spot available would be a Utility one, a midfield/wing.J.Barrett, Ioane, Proctor, Heem, ALB.
Havili & Ennor shouldn't be in the conversation.
Havili and ALB will be there because Foster.....Dont see Heem and Proctor getting a look in.
He won't roll those dice.
Are we seriously questioning ALB? Highly experienced and proven at both 12 and 13 in tests. Probably reads defence better than any of the candidates.
He won’t let us down. But he won’t win us the cup either. Just too Vanilla for me. Opposition D won’t worry about him at all.
Rieko for all his faults gives them kittens. He’s not a centres arsehole but his pace is an equaliser.
ALB is a selection when you go out there to not lose. But at some point we need to go out and WIN it.
Himself and Goodhue together still turns my stomach.
I get the 'all in' approach but we are talking about a RWC Squad here. By your logic Conrad Smith wouldn't have won two of them.
For starters he provides bench versatility.
I get that he may not be a Nonu type 12 but neither are any of the other options. At 13 we are very light on experience.
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@Chris-B the difference...and i admit this is vibe...but it felt like the core of that team was more established, i feel there was less debate on the best 15 or maybe 12-13 of the 15...where as it feels like currently we have 6-7 locked in and maybe another couple who will start but we're not sure which position
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yep. i reckon the 23 for the knockouts is basically penned in. Fans may disagree, but the ABs team is settled
