All Blacks 2023
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:
To me the biggest thing is that LF has reportedly said he doesn't really care about the ABs (can't find link, but did read that).
Something didn't go right. I suspect he knows that he has shit the bed with other players and his best option is overseas.You may or may not be right. Context is everything. Media were talking him up, asking him about being in the ABs. He answered with possibly a badly worded reply (I can't remember the exact words he used). Maybe he just meant that at that stage of the SRP competition, the ABs weren't on his mind because at that moment, SR/Crusaders was more important. I think way too much importance is given to the use of certain words.
OK. I thought it was a more specific question than that one. Will have a search.
If it was "ABs aren't my priority" when focussed on the Saders then, yep, a media deliberate bit of misdirection.Edit: maybe the source of that was this...
“Growing up, there's always been boys saying, 'I want to be an All Black,' but it was always a weird feeling for myself,” he said.
“Like, it wasn't really a fire burning in my stomach. All I knew was my goal in life was to give back to my family, support them.”I have no issue with that but it does possibly highlight his thinking on taking an overseas contract over repping the ABs.
For all we know he has said this directly to coaches as well and they want to invest in others. -
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:
To me the biggest thing is that LF has reportedly said he doesn't really care about the ABs (can't find link, but did read that).
Something didn't go right. I suspect he knows that he has shit the bed with other players and his best option is overseas.You may or may not be right. Context is everything. Media were talking him up, asking him about being in the ABs. He answered with possibly a badly worded reply (I can't remember the exact words he used). Maybe he just meant that at that stage of the SRP competition, the ABs weren't on his mind because at that moment, SR/Crusaders was more important. I think way too much importance is given to the use of certain words.
OK. I thought it was a more specific question than that one. Will have a search.
If it was "ABs aren't my priority" when focussed on the Saders then, yep, a media deliberate bit of misdirection.A few quotes about wanting to support his family, and about liking league more than rugby.
“Growing up, there's always been boys saying, 'I want to be an All Black,' but it was always a weird feeling for myself,” he said.
“Like, it wasn't really a fire burning in my stomach. All I knew was my goal in life was to give back to my family, support them.”
I'm not sure I would read much into it, except it does appear that he was probably on the Piutau train (cash in early). I don't have a problem with that either.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2023:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:
To me the biggest thing is that LF has reportedly said he doesn't really care about the ABs (can't find link, but did read that).
Something didn't go right. I suspect he knows that he has shit the bed with other players and his best option is overseas.You may or may not be right. Context is everything. Media were talking him up, asking him about being in the ABs. He answered with possibly a badly worded reply (I can't remember the exact words he used). Maybe he just meant that at that stage of the SRP competition, the ABs weren't on his mind because at that moment, SR/Crusaders was more important. I think way too much importance is given to the use of certain words.
OK. I thought it was a more specific question than that one. Will have a search.
If it was "ABs aren't my priority" when focussed on the Saders then, yep, a media deliberate bit of misdirection.A few quotes about wanting to support his family, and about liking league more than rugby.
“Growing up, there's always been boys saying, 'I want to be an All Black,' but it was always a weird feeling for myself,” he said.
“Like, it wasn't really a fire burning in my stomach. All I knew was my goal in life was to give back to my family, support them.”
I'm not sure I would read much into it, except it does appear that he was probably on the Piutau train (cash in early). I don't have a problem with that either.
End result is that while the selectors are probably not closing the door they may be more interested in opening others.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:
The fact Leicester never played last year after that second test is quite telling. Not a great sign for him.
More to the point he left the EOYT before playing a match and wasn't called back.
Maybe the personal reasons were genuine. His replacement (Telea) also played well enough not to be dropped.
Still, it doesn't add up in his favour.
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Stop bringing facts to discussions on the Fern. You have been warned.
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@Crazy-Horse "Awful analysis, incorrect conclusions, zero insight. Wrong about pretty much everything"
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:
@Crazy-Horse "Awful analysis, incorrect conclusions, zero insight. Wrong about pretty much everything"
I don't have a tattoo... but if I did
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:
@Crazy-Horse "Awful analysis, incorrect conclusions, zero insight. Wrong about pretty much everything"
You say that, but I've watched NZ rugby shows like The Breakdown.
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@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2023:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:
@Crazy-Horse "Awful analysis, incorrect conclusions, zero insight. Wrong about pretty much everything"
You say that, but I've watched NZ rugby shows like The Breakdown.
Christ, compared to the professional pundits we're Nostril-bloody-damus
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@MN5 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Bones said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
Reckon he'd be an excellent "Kahui" even.
Injured all the time ?
At least he had Beaver’s phone number in his back pocket.
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@Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
There are still some big games to come and the likes of Goodhue, Heem, Ennor, LF could either confirm or deny their own destiny.
Without injury the only spot available would be a Utility one, a midfield/wing.J.Barrett, Ioane, Proctor, Heem, ALB.
Havili & Ennor shouldn't be in the conversation.
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@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
There are still some big games to come and the likes of Goodhue, Heem, Ennor, LF could either confirm or deny their own destiny.
Without injury the only spot available would be a Utility one, a midfield/wing.J.Barrett, Ioane, Proctor, Heem, ALB.
Havili & Ennor shouldn't be in the conversation.
Havili might have ruled himself out if his hammy injury is bad.
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@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
There are still some big games to come and the likes of Goodhue, Heem, Ennor, LF could either confirm or deny their own destiny.
Without injury the only spot available would be a Utility one, a midfield/wing.J.Barrett, Ioane, Proctor, Heem, ALB.
Havili & Ennor shouldn't be in the conversation.
Havili and ALB will be there because Foster.....Dont see Heem and Proctor getting a look in.
He won't roll those dice.
