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  • broughieB Offline
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    Would have BB made a difference yesterday. Telea is a gamer and is he really slow? Plummer went pretty well and not sure Perofeta is an improvement. Actually Plummer plays pretty well wherever they put him.

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    @Bones said in Blues v Hurricanes:

    @Nepia said in Blues v Hurricanes:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Blues v Hurricanes:

    @Frank

    Telea is such a solid player. May not be as spectacular as a Will Jordan but utterly dependable.

    Def. the sort of player you need in a RWC.

    On tonight's evidence I'm not even sure that's true ...

    Yeah I've got him above Jordan. Just makes every decision on the money. But I don't seem to rate Jordan as high as most people anyway.

    I kind of agree Bones, I was thinking I would have him above Jordan, who though I always sung the praises of , worried me at times with his workrate etc.
    While I can understand @Steve saying you can't coach pace and the try against Irish last year, it was superb, and had me on feet yelling at game. Only trouble was that beautiful scorching run was almost only time he looked interested in that test.
    Thing that made me think Telea was ahead of him is his work under high ball that in that test I though Jordan was poor at, he never really tried to take one. I also thought and commented after that test maybe he was off colour or smething, I like him as player, but a little worried about things like workrate.

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    @Dan54 said in Blues v Hurricanes:

    @Bones said in Blues v Hurricanes:

    @Nepia said in Blues v Hurricanes:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Blues v Hurricanes:

    @Frank

    Telea is such a solid player. May not be as spectacular as a Will Jordan but utterly dependable.

    Def. the sort of player you need in a RWC.

    On tonight's evidence I'm not even sure that's true ...

    Yeah I've got him above Jordan. Just makes every decision on the money. But I don't seem to rate Jordan as high as most people anyway.

    I kind of agree Bones, I was thinking I would have him above Jordan, who though I always sung the praises of , worried me at times with his workrate etc.
    While I can understand @Steve saying you can't coach pace and the try against Irish last year, it was superb, and had me on feet yelling at game. Only trouble was that beautiful scorching run was almost only time he looked interested in that test.
    Thing that made me think Telea was ahead of him is his work under high ball that in that test I though Jordan was poor at, he never really tried to take one. I also thought and commented after that test maybe he was off colour or smething, I like him as player, but a little worried about things like workrate.

    Listen im as big a Telea fan boy as anyone, but you are not going to be meeting defences like yesterdays against Ireland, SA, France et al.

    I agree about Jordans workrate but his highlight reel is 98th percentile stuff. There aint many other players scoring those tries.

    Telea seems to be a money in the bank player. Doest get bundled into touch. Has enough wheels. Is deceptively strong.

    I can just visualise the big boys dealing with him. He aint making a bust like that on static ball from the half way line without meeting a Doris, Van Der Flier or O'Mahoney type.

    That's why you need to be freakishly fast or freakishly strong or both to REALLY be an ace up the sleeve.

    I hope im wrong. Not hating on the guy at all. But he has had a few quiet weeks and essentially came up against a touch footie team in the pissing rain.

    If he backs it up ill shut my gob.

    Stevenson is doing it every week.

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    On current form, the AB backline should be :
    Stevenson
    Telea
    Proctor
    Heem
    LF
    Dmac

    It won't happen though (not enough experience and Foster as head coach). Let's hope the likes of Mo'unga, J. Barrett and Rieko Ioane can regain some form for the RWC.

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    @broughie said in Blues v Hurricanes:

    Telea is a gamer and is he really slow?

    I don't think people are claiming he is slow but some, like me, have reservations about whether he has the top end pace to be as effective at test level.
    He's worth a punt though, because if he can do the same things for the ABs he will be handy.

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  • MN5M Online
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    Saw the highlights. Jeepers Telea showed all the skills and then some for those tries. He HAS to be in the mix. His balance and spacial awareness is pretty damn freakish I must say.

    For those that say he’s slow perhaps this is only in comparison to the fastest 13 I can ever recall playing inside him ?

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    I suspect it is Telea's running style, I thought he wasn't that fast at international level but a few tries recently have got me reconsidering, he is fast enough at wing methinks. What interests me most is he seems to have sudden bursts of acceleration that come out of nowhere.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300890805/mark-telea-magic-inspires-blues-as-the-tussle-for-all-blacks-wing-spots-heats-up

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    @Steve No argument about super vs test defences mate, and not suggesting otherwise, just pointing out some things that Will has to work on to get to top of tree in my opinion. The very best players don't just have a couple of 15 second highlight packages to show their worth is all I mean.

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    @nostrildamus Telea's in great form. But the canes defense was poor. Do the same against the better defending sides (crusaders or chiefs) and he will show he's the real deal. A rare talent that should start for the ABs

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    @Winger

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    @steve @Crazy-Horse

    People claiming Telea is safe and ineffective at test level have very quickly forgotten RWC winner Cory Jane.

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    @Bones said in Blues v Hurricanes:

    @steve @Crazy-Horse

    People claiming Telea is safe and ineffective at test level have very quickly forgotten RWC winner Cory Jane.

    Nah, we put them in the same conversation earlier today!

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    @canefan while talking about how slow Jane was and complaining about how he never scored tries out of nothing?

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    @Bones said in Blues v Hurricanes:

    @canefan while talking about how slow Jane was and complaining about how he never scored tries out of nothing?

    You need to read the other stuff....

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    @canefan in this thread?

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    #279

    @MN5 said in Blues v Hurricanes:

    Saw the highlights. Jeepers Telea showed all the skills and then some for those tries. He HAS to be in the mix. His balance and spacial awareness is pretty damn freakish I must say.

    For those that say he’s slow perhaps this is only in comparison to the fastest 13 I can ever recall playing inside him ?

    Each of those four tries showcased a different rare skill. Taken together it was a bravura performance!

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  • canefanC Offline
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    @canefan said in Blues v Hurricanes:

    @KiwiMurph said in Blues v Hurricanes:

    I feel like Telea is like a league winger in that he is not super fast but really good in a tight space. Some of runs are like scampers out of dummy half.

    Sounds like you are describing Cory Jane. And he was a very good All Black

    OK Bones, maybe it was just KiwiMurph and me

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  • Crazy HorseC Offline
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    @Bones said in Blues v Hurricanes:

    @steve @Crazy-Horse

    People claiming Telea is safe and ineffective at test level have very quickly forgotten RWC winner Cory Jane.

    That would earn a big yippee from me if he turns out to as good as Jane at test level. Did anybody say he would be ineffective? I recall wondering if he will be as effective given his lack of outright pace, but like I said, he deserves a go.

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  • TheMojomanT Offline
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    He’s already made a good start at test level and yes good comparison ie, Cory Jane.

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    We’re timing our run perfectly. If we can cement 3rd then it’s the Tahs at home for qtrs and all going well the Crusaders in Christchurch..we’ll cross that bridge when we get to it.

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