NSW Bans Greyhound Racing
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<p>Additionally, whole genome sequences have shown that cats most likely domesticated themselves. They found human settlements advantageous, so they chose to join them. They were not deliberately cowed by humanity - a trait that lives on through their Independence.</p>
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<p>Their relative intelligence cannot be determined, because they simply will not do anything they don't want to. Truly a noble and superior creature.</p>
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Cats have been shown in meta-studies to have superior longterm memory to dogs - they do not forgive.<br><br>
Their relative intelligence cannot be determined, because they simply will not do anything they don't want to. Truly a noble and superior creature.</p></blockquote>
Yup, if I stood on my cats tail by accident, hours later she would come up to me pretending to want affection by rubbing up against my legs, the second I put my hand down she'd tear it to pieces then sprint off down the hallway to hide under the bed where I couldn't get at her. She used to terrorise my mates with that sort of stuff as well. Crazy, but smart. -
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<p>Boulder dash. Cats are too smart to do any of that shit. They don't see the point. Dogs are retarded. That's why they'll endlessly run after a stick, or remain loyal even if they're totally neglected. With cats you have to win their respect. Dogs are too stupid to realise they have an option. And you have to wash the grotty bastards.</p>
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<p>they don't see the point in reward-based training? they don't see the point of 'if i do this, i get that'? gotta be pretty fucking thick then.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="reprobate" data-cid="595241" data-time="1467979298"><p>they don't see the point in reward-based training? they don't see the point of 'if i do this, i get that'? gotta be pretty fucking thick then.</p></blockquote>
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they don't see the point in reward-based training? they don't see the point of 'if i do this, i get that'? gotta be pretty fucking thick then.</p></blockquote>
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What is the point? A snack? A cat doesn't see the point in demeaning itself for food it will get fed anyway. If you were fed enough would you act like a clown or do something you didn't want to do for a cracker? -
<p>When will horse racing be in the firing line? in Australia being more realistic and perhaps with a precedent now?</p>
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<p>It's a debate that will no doubt gain some traction now but will be fought on a very different field and a lot more variables</p>
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<p>Note: i have no problem with either animal racing but do have a problem with pointless or lazy animal cruelty. Although perhaps I'm a hypocrite because I LOVE catching live rats for my Jack Russells (and they LOVE me doing it!)</p> -
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<p>Well Dogs are pretty much obsessed with food so reward based training is pretty easy with them. Cats are more obsessed with lying in the sun or playing with mice which they can do at their own leisure. If you try reward based training with a cat it will just look at you as if you are an idiot.</p>
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<p>What is the point? A snack? A cat doesn't see the point in demeaning itself for food it will get fed anyway. If you were fed enough would you act like a clown or do something you didn't want to do for a cracker?</p>
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<p>jesus, yeah that's what is going on. cats think people are stupid. cats aren't prepared to demean themselves to humans.</p>
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<p>let's recap: humans can travel into space. cats haven't got past square 1.</p>
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jesus, yeah that's what is going on. cats think people are stupid. cats aren't prepared to demean themselves to humans.<br><br>
let's recap: humans can travel into space. cats haven't got past square 1.<br><br>
it's personification gone mad. they don't understand cause they've got tiny little useless brains.</p></blockquote>
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Nah, they don't think humans are stupid, they just won't do stupid things for humans for some halfarsed treat. <br><br>
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<p>Nah, they don't think humans are stupid, they just won't do stupid things for humans for some halfarsed treat.<br><br>
Ever wondered why dogs aren't allowed to run free why cats are? Because dogs are likely to bite someone or run after and try and bite a car. In other words dogs are too farking stupid to be left alone.</p>
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<p>in the country dogs run free - they know where they are allowed to go, and what they are allowed to do. cats won't learn that. dogs being larger and stronger and potentially more dangerous is the reason for being more careful with them, not brain power.</p>
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<p>When will horse racing be in the firing line? in Australia being more realistic and perhaps with a precedent now?</p>
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<p>It's a debate that will no doubt gain some traction now but will be fought on a very different field and a lot more variables</p>
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<p>Think it's still a while away. Ultimately horses are much bigger creatures than dogs, and way less expendable.</p>
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<p>There are issues with cruelty for sure, but it's far more isolated and much easier to police. Whereas the greyhound issues were so endemic and widespread that there was never any real hope of fixing them.</p> -
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Had a pretty shitty experience with Greyhound racing. Im not a punter but went along once to hutt park and saw not one but at least 5 dogs getting the shit beaten out of them. Complained to who i thought was an adjudicator and was told "the dogs are fine." Turned me off the racing industry completely. I know not everyone is an arsehole and greyhounds arent horses but it just left a mark.<br><br>
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<p>Most studies suggests dogs are smarter than cats. (brain weight adjusted for body mass)</p>
<p>Studies also show more social animals tend to be smarter.</p>
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<p>Cats are less fuss because they don't really have the EQ of dogs, nor the social needs. </p> -
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<p>Generally they make hopeless pets as they are train to chase and kill pretty much. Our Neighbour had one and it had to be put down eventually. Cleaned up all the Rabbits on the farm but.... and all the domestic cats in the district..... :)</p>
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<p>Not sure of the downside with this dog your neighbour had. Does it have any surviving brothers and sisters? ............asking on behalf of a friend.</p> -
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Most studies suggests dogs are smarter than cats. (brain weight adjusted for body mass)<br>
Studies also show more social animals tend to be smarter.<br>
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Cats are less fuss because they don't really have the EQ of dogs, nor the social needs.</p></blockquote>
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