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    @Chris said in All Blacks v England:

    2.Reiko is redefining how we look at a centre now, express speed in the middle of the park is a big point of difference in the modern game.

    Yeah, look at SR and how many 13's have experience on the wing too. Ioane, Heem, Sullivan, PUJ, Ennor, LF etc

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    Just a shout out for DeGroot ST and Lomax. I highly doubt a year ago anyone would have picked that as the front row likely to start vs England.

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    It's strange that NZ and England have played each other so little since RWC 2015.

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    @Frank said in All Blacks v England:

    Want to see more of this Eddie Jones come Saturday.

    What's with England playing in black? Their Netball chicks did it too. I can't recall it being a thing before. Am I forgetting something?

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    @Machpants I’m no expert lip reader but I think he said How stupid are we? with some colour in between

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    @Crazy-Horse its at least been a thing for their change strip since 2011 RWC

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v England:

    @Crazy-Horse its at least been a thing for their away jersey since 2011 RWC

    Really? Shows how much I watch England play!

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    @Crazy-Horse i really only remember it because some people made a big deal, "england wear black in NZ, trying to emulate NZ mana" kind of shit, same kind of stuff they said when france went to the really dark blue

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    @ACT-Crusader I'm not sold on Newell. Good in the scrum but he is slow as a slug. I would have Bower in their and Ofa.

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v England:

    Given how well Telea played maybe there is another decent wing out there?

    We still lack a spare 13 behind Ioane if ALB no longer suits there.
    From what I saw of the AB XV Big Leicester would at least add a bit of oomph.

    Cough Shaun Stevenson cough

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v England:

    @Chris-B there’s a couple ways it could go with 2nd 5 / centre / fullback

    Jordie / Ioane / Beaudie. ALB bench
    ALB / Ioane / Jordie. Beaudie bench
    Jordie / ALB / Beaudie. Ioane wing
    Havili / Ioane / Jordie. Beaudie and ALB bench

    Yeah - and in fact my bench would allow us to change to several of those configurations if things turn to shit.

    It just looks a bit to me to me like Fozzie's been building ALB back with a view to starting this game, while at the same time using Clarke up.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v England:

    @Machpants I’m no expert lip reader but I think he said How stupid are we? with some colour in between

    I do lip read a bit , im a bit deaf ,

    Thats what he said IMO

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    @broughie said in All Blacks v England:

    @ACT-Crusader I'm not sold on Newell. Good in the scrum but he is slow as a slug. I would have Bower in their and Ofa.

    If Newell is a slug, Ofa is a snail!

    Ofa’s mobility especially with ball in hand has dropped off the cliff considerably.

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    @ACT-Crusader I think you'll find it's a little bit better than Newhalls he is still young.

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    @nzzp Boks still dining out on Japan-Wales-already played their final England from last time

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    @broughie said in All Blacks v England:

    @ACT-Crusader I think you'll find it's a little bit better than Newhalls he is still young.

    I'm thoroughly unconvinced by that - Ofa's last couple of outings have been very undynamic.

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    G. Bower, C. Taylor, F. Newell, T. Chief, S. Whitelock, S. Barrett, B. Harmon, T. Cane, T. Lander, R. Mo’unga, L. Fainga’anuku, B. Ennor, T. Blue, S. Reece, J. Barrett

    Good balanced side. Plenty of grunt and hard workers up front and size in the backs.

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    @Bones I concede that Ofa is not as good as a couple of years ago. Don't remember Newell carting it up with any substantial impact and just an observation. Always willing to be corrected especially if I've offended those Cantabs who think everything forward must wear black and red.

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    @broughie said in All Blacks v England:

    @Bones I concede that Ofa is not as good as a couple of years ago. Don't remember Newell carting it up with any substantial impact and just an observation. Always willing to be corrected especially if I've offended those Cantabs who think everything forward must wear black and red.

    Ofa is in the same category as Clarke, that away win against the Crusaders he was running like a back and powering through people at will. Never seen him so mobile.

    Both seem to have struggled in the AB camp to being their Super form back to Test level. Part of that may be returning from injury, or just confidence, but the difference is marked.

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