All Blacks v England
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ALB was very poor with the 13 jersey. He is far too slow. He fared better when he went to 2nd Five. I guess he will be on the bench as Rieko Ioane is clearly the best centre in NZ. He is not the finished product there but he is still the best option. Currently, neither ALB, Ennor, LF or Aumua are good enough for the big games. It's a shame we could not see more of Peter Umaga-Jensen as a centre. He had been outstanding there two years ago before getting benched by Holland for the next Super Rugby season.
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https://www.allblacks.com/news/transformed-front-row-ready-for-england-arm-wrestle/
Haha, this
With Brodie Retallick's suspension completed and his 100th Test looming, it would be appreciated by the starting XV if he played against England because opposing them during training for the last two weeks, he had been a nuisance.
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Weird, I don't recall anyone saying ALB was too slow to play centre before this weekend. Goodhue yes, but not ALB. I didn't notice a speed issue on my one viewing in middle of the night. Are we now expecting everyone to be quick like RI or has his speed suddenly deserted him?
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v England:
Weird, I don't recall anyone saying ALB was too slow to play centre before this weekend. Goodhue yes, but not ALB. I didn't notice a speed issue on my one viewing in middle of the night. Are we now expecting everyone to be quick like RI or has his speed suddenly deserted him?
Yeah, I didn't think speed was an issue - he was shit in the first part of the game but it wasn't speed related.
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@Crazy-Horse i had never thought he had an abundance of speed...."slow" is relative as im sure everyone of them is faster than me, always thought of him more of a creator/distributor/initial break kind of guy rather than a run it in from 50m kind of guy
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v England:
@Crazy-Horse i had never thought he had an abundance of speed...."slow" is relative as im sure everyone of them is faster than me, always thought of him more of a creator/distributor/initial break kind of guy rather than a run it in from 50m kind of guy
Yeah. I always considered him as being fast enough but not a speedster.
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@Crazy-Horse and that might be the problem, playing at 13 in that formation with Havili inside...the role feels more like a finisher/speedster...role....which he isn't. so he might need to play outside someone like JB (so if ALB makes a break he can go in OR out to finishers) or inside RI (act as a more obvious second playmaker)
edit: i think a lot of my frustrations with fozzie is i dont believe he looks enough at, or dont understand his thinking behind, the combinations he selects, it does often feel like he views every position in isolation and not always how a player can perform in a role with the other people he's selected around them
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@Frank said in All Blacks v England:
Want to see more of this Eddie Jones come Saturday.
Is he ranting that the most blatant not supporting weight/hands on ground not ball penalty I've seen this year is not a penalty? I hope he's just swearing at the idiot who did it!
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Maybe ALB looking slow at centre is two fold.
1.Match fitness usually takes a lot of games after a long lay off to get back to speed .
2.Reiko is redefining how we look at a centre now, express speed in the middle of the park is a big point of difference in the modern game.
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@Chris said in All Blacks v England:
Maybe ALB looking slow at centre is two fold.
1.Match fitness usually takes a lot of games after a long lay off to get back to speed .
2.Reiko is redefining how we look at a centre now, express speed in the middle of the park is a big point of difference in the modern game.
I'm not sure he was that slow either, more rusty and looks more comfortable at 12.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks v England:
@Chris said in All Blacks v England:
Maybe ALB looking slow at centre is two fold.
1.Match fitness usually takes a lot of games after a long lay off to get back to speed .
2.Reiko is redefining how we look at a centre now, express speed in the middle of the park is a big point of difference in the modern game.
I'm not sure he was that slow either, more rusty and looks more comfortable at 12.
He looked sluggish to me which is understandable,Anyone playing 13 is going to look slow compared to Reiko though,I think he will get better and can cover 13 and 12 perfect for a WC squad.
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@Chris said in All Blacks v England:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks v England:
@Chris said in All Blacks v England:
Maybe ALB looking slow at centre is two fold.
1.Match fitness usually takes a lot of games after a long lay off to get back to speed .
2.Reiko is redefining how we look at a centre now, express speed in the middle of the park is a big point of difference in the modern game.
I'm not sure he was that slow either, more rusty and looks more comfortable at 12.
He looked sluggish to me which is understandable,Anyone playing 13 is going to look slow compared to Reiko though,I think he will get better and can cover 13 and 12 perfect for a WC squad.
And a match day 23 out of a WC.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks v England:
@Chris said in All Blacks v England:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks v England:
@Chris said in All Blacks v England:
Maybe ALB looking slow at centre is two fold.
1.Match fitness usually takes a lot of games after a long lay off to get back to speed .
2.Reiko is redefining how we look at a centre now, express speed in the middle of the park is a big point of difference in the modern game.
I'm not sure he was that slow either, more rusty and looks more comfortable at 12.
He looked sluggish to me which is understandable,Anyone playing 13 is going to look slow compared to Reiko though,I think he will get better and can cover 13 and 12 perfect for a WC squad.
And a match day 23 out of a WC.
Yep that too.
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@Chris said in All Blacks v England:
2.Reiko is redefining how we look at a centre now, express speed in the middle of the park is a big point of difference in the modern game.
Yeah, look at SR and how many 13's have experience on the wing too. Ioane, Heem, Sullivan, PUJ, Ennor, LF etc
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@Frank said in All Blacks v England:
Want to see more of this Eddie Jones come Saturday.
What's with England playing in black? Their Netball chicks did it too. I can't recall it being a thing before. Am I forgetting something?
