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  • boobooB Do not disturb
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    #66

    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    @sparky said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    I'd pick

    1. De Grott 2.Taylor 3. Ofa T 4. Vaii 5. Whitelock 6. A.Ioane 7 Papali'i 8. Sotutu 9. Weber 10. Mounga 11. C.Clarke 12. J. Barrett 13. ALB. 14. Reece 15. BB

    Bench Aumua, Bower, Laulala, S. Barrett, Frizzell, TJP, Havaii, Telea.

    Sami T, Lomax,Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith and Reiko Ioane get the week off so they're good to go against England

    Doesn't make much sense to me to rest Taukieaho last week and then drop him all together this week.

    Re Aumua. I am to think he's had issues with throwing. Is that correct? Otherwise I'm happy for him to come on in the impact role that ST occupied last week.

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    @booboo then he probably needs to start and ST off the bench, not ideal if we send ST into the English test off the back of 1 bench appearance in the previous 2 weeks.

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    But do you want to beat England on the back of a loss to Scotland?

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    @MiketheSnow you said that wont happen after the Scotland v Fiji game....

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    #70

    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    @sparky said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    I'd pick

    1. De Grott 2.Taylor 3. Ofa T 4. Vaii 5. Whitelock 6. A.Ioane 7 Papali'i 8. Sotutu 9. Weber 10. Mounga 11. C.Clarke 12. J. Barrett 13. ALB. 14. Reece 15. BB

    Bench Aumua, Bower, Laulala, S. Barrett, Frizzell, TJP, Havaii, Telea.

    Sami T, Lomax,Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith and Reiko Ioane get the week off so they're good to go against England

    Doesn't make much sense to me to rest Taukieaho last week and then drop him all together this week.

    Re Aumua. I am to think he's had issues with throwing. Is that correct? Otherwise I'm happy for him to come on in the impact role that ST occupied last week.

    Aumua was excellent in the npc final. And mostly good throughout the npc. One off game was the Auckland semi

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    @MiketheSnow you said that wont happen after the Scotland v Fiji game....

    If Townsend swallows his pride and selects Russell who knows what could happen

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    Feel free to move this to Foster

    Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

    As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

    You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

    But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

    Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

    If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

    He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

    That’s all he needs to perform

    Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

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    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    Feel free to move this to Foster

    Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

    As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

    You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

    But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

    Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

    If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

    He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

    That’s all he needs to perform

    Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

    Alldritt is very close.

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    #74

    I just hope that Telea Harmon and Aumua get some time this weekend after missing the AB XV v La Rochelle XV match. OK if that is from the bench.

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    Feel free to move this to Foster

    Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

    As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

    You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

    But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

    Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

    If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

    He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

    That’s all he needs to perform

    Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

    this is absolutely my opinion on "rotation" as well.

    with the slight caveat that at times, the best 23 for a weekend might be slightly different to the weekend before depending on who we are playing, or the fatigue status of a player

    Also, i don't think Savea is the best #8 in the world. Though he is the best A Savea in the world. And i have become comfortable with that. The coaches are just letting him roam around the field doing what he wants. He's not a 7, he's not an 8, he's not a 6. He just does shit. And that's pretty cool, because right now he is the difference maker in the pack. Build the other two loosies around him, and let him do his thing.

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  • MN5M Online
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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    Great news.

    Scotland by 50

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  • MN5M Online
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    @cgrant said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    Feel free to move this to Foster

    Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

    As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

    You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

    But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

    Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

    If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

    He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

    That’s all he needs to perform

    Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

    Alldritt is very close.

    France have always had some of my favourite number 8s. Harinordiquay, Chabal, Picamoles……what a bunch of talented psychos.

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    @cgrant said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    Feel free to move this to Foster

    Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

    As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

    You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

    But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

    Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

    If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

    He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

    That’s all he needs to perform

    Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

    Alldritt is very close.

    France have always had some of my favourite number 8s. Harinordiquay, Chabal, Picamoles……what a bunch of talented psychos.

    You ok Hun? You completely bypassed a chance to mention Cecillion.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    @cgrant said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    Feel free to move this to Foster

    Been thinking about this whole coaching conundrum

    As far as I’m concerned you pick the best 23 available to you every match

    You can tinker with who starts and who finishes but you want your best charges present and correct at every opportunity

    But how do you blood new players I hear you ask?

    Ardie Savea is the best No 8 in the world at the moment

    If Sotutu is chosen ahead of him based on merit not rotation then Sotutu can rightfully feel he’s possibly the best No 8 in the world

    He’s trained day in day out with the best in the world (Savea) and been chosen ahead of him

    That’s all he needs to perform

    Not 10 minutes at the end of a match that’s already won against a side who are already beaten

    Alldritt is very close.

    France have always had some of my favourite number 8s. Harinordiquay, Chabal, Picamoles……what a bunch of talented psychos.

    You ok Hun? You completely bypassed a chance to mention Cecillion.

    Good point. He fired more shots than any of them.

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    #81

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    @canefan for players like them it becomes more mental fatigue with the intensity levels rather than the physical side of it, in my opinion of course.

    Don't the French players have over 30 matches per season?

    In comparison we play just 14 games of Super Rugby each year, it's laughable.

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  • boobooB Do not disturb
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    #82

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    @canefan for players like them it becomes more mental fatigue with the intensity levels rather than the physical side of it, in my opinion of course.

    Don't the French players have over 30 matches per season?

    Our guys play just 14 games of Super Rugby each year....

    Plus tests plus pre season plus any npc... bunch of softies that (spit) Foster let's them get away with.

    Geez the French are awesome.

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    #83

    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    @canefan for players like them it becomes more mental fatigue with the intensity levels rather than the physical side of it, in my opinion of course.

    Don't the French players have over 30 matches per season?

    Our guys play just 14 games of Super Rugby each year....

    Plus tests plus pre season plus any npc... bunch of softies that (spit) Foster let's them get away with.

    Geez the French are awesome.

    Kudos to the French players playing EVERY club match and EVERY test.

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    @kiwi_expat Don't the French clubs have far bigger squads and far more rotation? And the Top 14 continues during the test window, without their internationals.

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    @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    @kiwi_expat Don't the French clubs have far bigger squads and far more rotation? And the Top 14 continues during the test window, without their internationals.

    Foster apologist.

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