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  • MN5M Online
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    MN5
    replied to Bones on last edited by
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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.

    Same stats

    But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.

    That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.

    His Dad played against Richard Metcalfe who was 7 foot.

    Thank the lord it was only Scotland.

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  • BonesB Offline
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    replied to MN5 on last edited by
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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.

    Same stats

    But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.

    That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.

    His Dad played against Richard Metcalfe who was 7 foot.

    Thank the lord it was only Scotland.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    Chris
    replied to Bones on last edited by
    #4044

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.

    Same stats

    But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.

    That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.

    Are we talking about Akira now.

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  • BonesB Offline
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    Bones
    replied to Chris on last edited by
    #4045

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.

    Same stats

    But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.

    That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.

    Are we talking about Akira now.

    Nah. Haven't gotten around to players that beat defenders yet...

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    Chris
    replied to Bones on last edited by
    #4046

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.

    Same stats

    But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.

    That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.

    Are we talking about Akira now.

    Nah. Haven't gotten around to players that beat defenders yet...

    You still won't have then when you mention Akira, unless a gentle push counts.

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    KiwiMurph
    wrote on last edited by KiwiMurph
    #4047

    Back on topic I would expect Frizell will likely get the 6 jersey against Japan - if for no one other reason than to give him some game time given Ta$man aren't in the playoffs - it will be nearly 2 months since Shannon last played by the time the Japan test rolls around.

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

    Back on topic I would expect Frizell will likely get the 6 jersey against Japan - if for no one other reason than to give him some game time given Ta$man aren't in the playoffs - it will be nearly 2 months since Shannon played by the time the Japan test rolls around.

    I see what you did there ๐Ÿ˜‰

    I reckon Akira starts against Japan.

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  • BonesB Offline
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    Bones
    replied to Chris on last edited by
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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.

    Same stats

    But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.

    That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.

    Are we talking about Akira now.

    Nah. Haven't gotten around to players that beat defenders yet...

    You still won't have then when you mention Akira, unless a gentle push counts.

    We wouldn't want Ethan dislocating his shoulder! Gentle pushes shouldn't be allowed.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    Chris
    replied to Bones on last edited by
    #4050

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    I wouldn't be using Wiki for any reliable source of weights and heights. The official AB site would be a better source, although may not be entirely accurate either.

    Same stats

    But you're telling us Blackadder is much taller than his "official" stats.

    That just makes it worse if true. Being a big flanker and playing like a small flanker isn't exactly an endearing factor.

    Are we talking about Akira now.

    Nah. Haven't gotten around to players that beat defenders yet...

    You still won't have then when you mention Akira, unless a gentle push counts.

    We wouldn't want Ethan dislocating his shoulder! Gentle pushes shouldn't be allowed.

    Very True as we do not want Akira tripping over and hurting his foot again in the act of gentle pushing.

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  • nostrildamusN Offline
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    replied to ACT Crusader on last edited by
    #4051

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

    Back on topic I would expect Frizell will likely get the 6 jersey against Japan - if for no one other reason than to give him some game time given Ta$man aren't in the playoffs - it will be nearly 2 months since Shannon played by the time the Japan test rolls around.

    I see what you did there ๐Ÿ˜‰

    I reckon Akira starts against Japan.

    his name alone could "clearly" confuse them...

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    SBW1
    replied to nostrildamus on last edited by SBW1
    #4052

    @nostrildamus Aumua has to be in the picture for the northen tour.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    replied to Bovidae on last edited by
    #4053

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    We've got a lot of props that are taller than most of the AB loose forwards.

    Taller. Longer legs. Longer stride. Faster.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    replied to MN5 on last edited by
    #4054

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

    Injuries seem to increase a players reputation by about 200% judging from what I read on the fern

    That Charlie Ngatai bloke getting injured was a real loss.

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  • MN5M Online
    MN5M Online
    MN5
    replied to Victor Meldrew on last edited by
    #4055

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

    Injuries seem to increase a players reputation by about 200% judging from what I read on the fern

    That Charlie Ngatai bloke getting injured was a real loss.

    Pragmatic bunch of fans on here. I donโ€™t think itโ€™s ever been mentioned.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
    wrote on last edited by Crucial
    #4056

    www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130062692/all-blacks-star-jordie-barrett-resigns-for-new-zealand-rugby-until-2025

    Edit: Just wondered if we need a page or collection point for contract details. Often a point of discussion and some posters keep track of this stuff. Maybe an AB one and one for each Super team? That way when a story like this comes along we could file the info instead of googling later on. Just an idea.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
    replied to Victor Meldrew on last edited by
    #4057

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    We've got a lot of props that are taller than most of the AB loose forwards.

    Taller. Longer legs. Longer stride. Faster.

    It's the weight though, the weight I tell you.

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  • R Offline
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    reprobate
    wrote on last edited by
    #4058

    If Ardie is big enough for 8, then so is Blackadder. Except neither of them are really.
    Papalii is just a younger Cane. Big defensive heart, but not a lot extra.
    If Sotutu, Savea and Blackadder all played 7 we would have some really interesting options there. Instead we are stuck with Savea at 8, a tackler at 7, and needing to pick a big limited 6 in Barrett or Frizz to try to balance the trio - and we are still going to get beaten up by the big packs. Admittedly the injury forced front row changes have helped a lot with the overall balance of the pack, and lessened that problem, maybe even enough to hide it until the WC when we have 3 big packs in a row to play.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
    replied to reprobate on last edited by
    #4059

    @reprobate out of curiousity, do you think that these 'big packs' really are bigger? By much?

    I haven't looked up size differences but my general feeling that it is more the direct style of play that has troubled us rather than size.

    NZ teams don't tend to play forwards winding up in close and our systems aren't set for it. The momentum equation has the velocity as a factor on the same level as mass. I think velocity plays a big part in other teams gaining momentum against us which is why it annoys me that our own possible momentum weapons often go forward off a standing (or near standing) start.

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #4060

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130062692/all-blacks-star-jordie-barrett-resigns-for-new-zealand-rugby-until-2025

    Edit: Just wondered if we need a page or collection point for contract details. Often a point of discussion and some posters keep track of this stuff. Maybe an AB one and one for each Super team? That way when a story like this comes along we could file the info instead of googling later on. Just an idea.

    In my experience from the last few years, if you make pages with lists of info about players, signings etc, people just keep on asking for those details in threads, because they forget about the existence of those pages, or they can't be bothered to look at those pages. Not worth the work, for me.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
    wrote on last edited by Crucial
    #4061

    Just did a quick add up of the Ireland pack in the 3rd test and our most recent starting pack to see if this talk of us having to play 'the big packs' has much in it.

    ABs 914kg v Ireland 893kg

    Front rows 357 v 349
    Locks 240 v 228
    Loosies 317 v 316

    21kg overall but pretty even all around.

    We won't be the biggest pack going but I doubt there is that much difference.

    EDIT: Just added up the French starting pack from their last 6N game (v England)
    931kg
    All the difference can be attributed to Utonio whose stat is 17kg heavier than he largest other prop. (145kg). Locks are about on par as are loosies.

    I'm going to stop listening to shite about 'the big packs'. I just think they play 'bigger'.

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