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    @mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

    Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

    He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
    Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

    and Frizzell does?

    I am not yet 100% convinced Ioane is the answer at 6

    But i am convinced by the absolute mountain of evidence that Frizzell isn't

    It looks like they are trying to pick the least worst option at 6... I still prefer SB over both AK and SF... Bet ethan blackadders gutted about his shoulder... As this would have been a great opportunity to make strong claims..
    Cos one thing both AK and SF have consistently failed to do... Is make the #6 theirs....

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    @mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @cgrant said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    In order to strengthen the forwards cohesion, why not try established combinations ? This means the Chiefs front row (Ross - Taukeiaho - Ta'avao with the Crusaders front row on the bench Bower - Taylor - Newell) + the Crusaders locks (Barrett - Whitelock with Va'ai on the bench) + the Blues loose forwards (Ioane - Papalii - Sotutu with Savea on the bench) ? It has zero chance to happen though.

    i get the idea but

    The problems are not that they aren't used to playing together, it's that they aren't used to playing this way together. We're gonna have the same problems with different faces. You aren't picking the Blues loosies to play like the Blues loosies, you are picking 3 guys who play at the Blues to be the AB loosies.

    The view that Foster has any clue what you are talking about is slim.

    Great team on paper. Shit team on the paddock.

    Bet they are awesome at training though.

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    @taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    I'd love to see what Fozzie sees in frizzel.

    On the radio this morning he said 'a different kind of physicality' to Akira.

    No idea what that means.

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    @nzzp Akira can catch a ball on his try line?

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    @nzzp

    I am no fozzie fan but I think I know what he is alluding to.

    Akira is more swerve and fend. A bit upright.

    Frizzell will put the head down and carry into dark places. Ive never been convinced by him though off field issues notwithstanding.

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    @Steve but without actual physicality...

    @Crucial well as I said last week, you'd hope he has some influence over selections, so maybe he has seen something in Lomax he can utilise, or maybe he got over ruled on his preferred 8?

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    we are honestly getting into the territory of just telling the players :

    "the ball doesn't go passed Mo'unga"

    up the guts and kick the leather off it.

    Move the scoreboard in increments of 3.

    James Parsons alluded to it on the latest Aotearoa podcast. Some guys such as Bower are waiting as tip runners to throw a pass out the back. Instead of just telling them to fucking mill into the next ruck. They are trying to be ball players too.

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    Anyone even looking at a ruck should be getting put on his arse this weekend.

    None of this Lukhanyo Am nudging Bower to create a gap for Marx to jackal.

    Every single arsehole within 5 yards of a breakdown should be getting torpedoed. Ref included.

    Ruck Jihad.

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    @Steve said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    None of this Lukhanyo Am nudging Bower to create a gap for Marx to jackal.

    goddamn preach mate. That pissed me off no end. Different ref rules that VERY differently ... hence my optimistic prediction of an AB win.

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    @nzzp

    we can't leave it to the ref this week. Flatten everyone.

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    Hoped to see Reece Sotutu and Ross. Oh well. Good luck AB's. Lots of motivation.

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    Whereas we've had no motivation the previous two weeks?

    I think by now it is clear that motivation isn't going to save us. We'll clear to everyone but Foster, apparently.

    I have to say I'm impressed. After a run of terrible results to keep hoping that doing the same things over and over will give better results speaks to some awesome, absolutely world class, gold-medal winning, stubbornness.

    Our results in rugby may be shit, but we have a world leader in pig-headedness!!!

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    @ARHS said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    Hoped to see Reece Sotutu and Ross. Oh well. Good luck AB's. Lots of motivation.

    One thing that seems odd is the squaddies selected but not used. Is this because the selection was a mistake (as the PGS example implies) or is it a lack of confidence?
    Also possible that it is a symptom of the losses and they approach of putting it back on the incumbents to fix things.
    It doesn't provide a lot of confidence in the squad selectors when they select players, don't use them then jump someone else over them. eg Ross
    I like DeGroot as a player but it would also make sense against SA to have a Chiefs FR and a Saders FR to swap between (as suggested by someone earlier). They know how to work together and when SB and Whitelock are the locks the whole Saders tight 5 could have a spell together

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    I don't mind Akira on the bench.

    In 3 tests vs the Boks starting he hasn't convinced and he was good off of the bench in Dublin last year (remember the disallowed try forward pass Rieko to Akira).

    The problem is Frizell is definitely not the answer.

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    @Steve said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @nzzp

    we can't leave it to the ref this week. Flatten everyone.

    Got to do that but be smart. If the ref pings everyone for cleanouts near the ruck (remember Ireladn 1 or 2 - there was some bullshit call on the right hand touchline early; Akira or Scott I think) then you have to be very focussed and directed.

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    @nzzp It was Papalii who got the ridiculous call.

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    @Steve said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @nzzp

    we can't leave it to the ref this week. Flatten everyone.

    Be whiny bitches and run to every tackle shouting 'Tackler release!'. If ref gets upset let him know that you were trying to save him from blowing a penalty.

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    @Crucial yes and I agree about lack of combos but perhaps they don't want to admit they can't build better combos than the ones at super rugby? It is a remarkably inexplicable talent to select mostly the same players as often as Foster does who seem to gel together less and less.

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    I thought Bower has been strong all season, it wasn't his side getting pinged last week.

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    Jake White: The All Blacks are in uncharted territory

    Jake White: The All Blacks are in uncharted territory

    I’ll tell you a little story. When I was coach of the Springboks, after a particularly tough encounter against the All Blacks, I remember...

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