Foster, Robertson etc
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@KiwiMurph said in Foster:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:
@ACT-Crusader said in Foster:
Pressure will be up tenfold in my view and whoever comes in, there will be the shortest of honeymoon periods
Yep, and as almost all the ills have been placed at Foster's doorstep by commentators near and far, people will expect nothing less than rapid improvement.
Nah.
You can stop digging....
Seriously? Because I'd be looking for some serious improvement with game-plan, Defence and player performance with a new Coach by the EOYT, otherwise what's the point?
Well in the space of 1-2 weeks Jason Ryan has rapidly improved the lineout and maul defence.
Actually thought our lineout maul D was shit.
Bokke made mileage without even trying.
Huh that's an interesting take, I only have a recollection of once, maybe twice where they weren't pretty much held to a very short gain at best.
From distance. Didn't score but marched us up field and made shed loads of metres.
Got any examples to look at? That's definitely not what I saw.
Whitelock contested and it compromised the maul defence. Was the only time ABs got the maul defence set up wrong.
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@nostrildamus cheat like buggery, they lost five players to yellow cards over the series for repeat offenses.
More seriously, they were successful because we were dumb with keeping balls in after momentum got stalled.
If I was coaching the All Blacks id just focus on getting all eight forwards in the maul cause we are using space that would create
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@KiwiMurph said in Foster:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:
@ACT-Crusader said in Foster:
Pressure will be up tenfold in my view and whoever comes in, there will be the shortest of honeymoon periods
Yep, and as almost all the ills have been placed at Foster's doorstep by commentators near and far, people will expect nothing less than rapid improvement.
Nah.
You can stop digging....
Seriously? Because I'd be looking for some serious improvement with game-plan, Defence and player performance with a new Coach by the EOYT, otherwise what's the point?
Well in the space of 1-2 weeks Jason Ryan has rapidly improved the lineout and maul defence.
Actually thought our lineout maul D was shit.
Bokke made mileage without even trying.
Huh that's an interesting take, I only have a recollection of once, maybe twice where they weren't pretty much held to a very short gain at best.
From distance. Didn't score but marched us up field and made shed loads of metres.
Got any examples to look at? That's definitely not what I saw.
I hate to watch replays of losses. But second half. Bokke right wing. 40 - 50 m out. Bad guys made massive ground.
If I have time to look I'll post times.
Worried me as we'd heard how good Ryan's maul D is.
That was the only instance of maul dominance.
The Boks had a few 10 metre line outs from our goal line and tried to get their driving maul going but didn’t go anywhere, and had to release the ball to the backs.
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@SidBarret said in Foster:
@nostrildamus cheat like buggery, they lost five players to yellow cards over the series for repeat offenses.
More seriously, they were successful because we were dumb with keeping balls in after momentum got stalled.
If I was coaching the All Blacks id just focus on getting all eight forwards in the maul cause we are using space that would create
@SidBarret said in Foster:
@nostrildamus cheat like buggery, they lost five players to yellow cards over the series for repeat offenses.
More seriously, they were successful because we were dumb with keeping balls in after momentum got stalled.
If I was coaching the All Blacks id just focus on getting all eight forwards in the maul cause we are using space that would create
I agree -the way an AB would hang off and then join too late really pissed me off.
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@Machpants yeah seems to be alot of speculation form people with 'sources' about at the moment.
Saw 2 opposing ones this morning, one saying there will be changes but wont involve Razor, then the other said Razor will be coach before the EOYT...both cited sources inside NZR
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@Machpants said in Foster:
But fair enough too, he is well in his rights to tell NZR to foxtrot oscar until after this year and/or RWC cycle
The optics of Robertson not getting involved when the ABs are suffering is horrific. If true, this will not play well with people, myself included. Opportunities come up when they come up, it's not always the right time.
Hell, it's a 12 month honeymoon I reckon, and a chance to start building for post-23
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@taniwharugby said in Foster:
@Machpants yeah seems to be alot of speculation form people with 'sources' about at the moment.
Saw 2 opposing ones this morning, one saying there will be changes but wont involve Razor, then the other said Razor will be coach before the EOYT...both cited sources inside NZR
Sauces
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@Machpants said in Foster:
But fair enough too, he is well in his rights to tell NZR to foxtrot oscar until after this year and/or RWC cycle
The optics of Robertson not getting involved when the ABs are suffering is horrific. If true, this will not play well with people, myself included. Opportunities come up when they come up, it's not always the right time.
Hell, it's a 12 month honeymoon I reckon, and a chance to start building for post-23
IF TRUE he could be the worst card player ever
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'I'm ashamed': Former All Black speaks out on 'disturbing' Foster comments
He should know, having received death threats to his family in the past.
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@Machpants said in Foster:
But fair enough too, he is well in his rights to tell NZR to foxtrot oscar until after this year and/or RWC cycle
The optics of Robertson not getting involved when the ABs are suffering is horrific. If true, this will not play well with people, myself included. Opportunities come up when they come up, it's not always the right time.
Hell, it's a 12 month honeymoon I reckon, and a chance to start building for post-23
Only if NZR give him a gaurantee of RWC 2027, otherwise he is shooting himself in the foot. Knowing NZR they are not offering that. Cos they are fluffybunnies. But NZR are probably offering a contract til the RWC, with all sorts of clauses. After they fucked up Foster contract by not actually putting any performance clauses in it, they probably are now - thus Razor gets the shitty end of the stick and rightly says fuck you
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Team gets paid massively over nation's economic level due to massive public interest - awesome!
Team management gets mild shit for losing every game - are you trying to make us commit suicide? Not OK!
to be fair there have been a hand full of posters here i have thought might have mental health issues in the last 7 months
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@ploughboy said in Foster:
Team gets paid massively over nation's economic level due to massive public interest - awesome!
Team management gets mild shit for losing every game - are you trying to make us commit suicide? Not OK!
to be fair there have been a hand full of posters here i have thought might have mental health issues in the last 7 months
Only posted it in this shitty pic as I can't find the movie scene 😞
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@ploughboy said in Foster:
Team gets paid massively over nation's economic level due to massive public interest - awesome!
Team management gets mild shit for losing every game - are you trying to make us commit suicide? Not OK!
to be fair there have been a hand full of posters here i have thought might have mental health issues in the last 7 months
Only posted it in this shitty pic as I can't find the movie scene 😞
That one is always worth an upvote.
I wonder if she/her/they/them/it gets royalties for every shared meme ?
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@taniwharugby said in Foster:
@Machpants yeah seems to be alot of speculation form people with 'sources' about at the moment.
Saw 2 opposing ones this morning, one saying there will be changes but wont involve Razor, then the other said Razor will be coach before the EOYT...both cited sources inside NZR
I could see Joe running things for the remainder of the RC and then Razor taking over for the EOYT where he gets to pick his own squad.
Who really knows though, I am so gutted with how things are going it is beyond words really.
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@ploughboy said in [Foster](/post/755111
to be fair there have been a hand full of posters here i have thought might have mental health issues in the last 7 months
Agree on that. And I agree with what Julian Savea said there.
I think Ian Foster is still trying to the best of his abilities to get the best results for his entire squad amidst the huge criticism while he is still employed to be in charge. And maybe he is all ready to step aside after weathering the flak while a plan B is put in place?
This contrasts with the angst that a handful of supposed fans are spreading with harsh attacks through online media. The players and coaches have families too who no doubt get told about it all even if they can shut it out for themselves.
I just hope that the players and coaches beyond the next test are not already badly impacted by the most extreme criticism.
It seems I am the outlier on TSF with this attitude. But I do believe that sports people need a positive support base around them to perform at their best for long periods in a high pressure high performance environment. I also think they know where they have been falling short and are motivated to do something about it through the pride and passion that got them that far.
I left my role in another sport because of ongoing bullying and undermining of HP coaches. I saw the sad impact on the health and lives of people involved and could not continue with it unchecked.
I read the fern to be better informed and to get a range of perspectives. What I do wonder about is what the less regular posters think. Is everybody so angry they need to vent harshly and regularly on individuals? There is not much material for those under pressure to be inspired by and that is a shame...
