Springboks v All Blacks I
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@canefan said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@stodders said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@SidBarret said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
My issue with Nyakane is actually the opposite, i think he will do well in the scrums, but he offers much less around the park than Ox (is he injured?)
Nyakane had issues in Wales three and were conned early in the england game last year, but I don't think he'll be fooled as easily again and on proper pitch his brute power should win out.
As for Moerat - hes not Snyman, but if we are going with 6-2 bench (which i dont think we should) then he is right pick to keep the physical pressure on the All Blacks.
Fuck knows what Rasnaber sees in Wiese. He only has one dimension (carrier). So the squad contains five candidates for the no 8 jerseys each of whom is at least equal to Wiese as a carrier while bringing other skills to the team.
We desparately need Pollard to find form. If he plays well I am very confident that we'll win and win well, but I also have almost zero confidence that he'll do that so yeah, its a fifty fifty game.
Well, let's hope you're half right and I am half right when it comes to Nyakane in that he scrums better than I think, and he is better in the loose than you think Sid
Can't seem to find any news on Ox, but I have to assume he is injured?I am fine with the 6-2 concept, if we have the right players in the bombsquad. That means guys who can cover a range of positions - and be highly effective doing so. So entire front row - tick. Franco covers you for lock and blindside - tick. Not sure we need yet another lock given that onfield PSDT could also slot back in the second row. I would have liked to see Roos in place of Moerat but no doubt that is heavily influenced by Jasper's inclusion...
Kwagga actually gives you cover at 6, 8 and probably could do a job in the outside backs.
Agreed on Pollard. He needs to get his mojo fully back. I am (perhaps wishfully) thinking I saw some progress in the 3rd Wales test..?
The one point I didn't mention is Jaden Hendrikse. I like him, but his service is below par slow. He really needs to up that part of his game.
You sound like an AB supporter from several years ago nit picking at the odd selection, but deep down knowing that the majority of the best players available have been selected and if they play well will likely win.
The Boks are clear, outright favourites. Consistency in selection, everyone knows the game plan, combinations are tried and tested, playing at home in front of a raucous crowd. A win should be a formality
We are definitely underdogs
Worse than that. We are underpups.
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@No-Quarter yea me too....2....0 to our All Black's!!
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@Steve said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Laumape would be really handy right now.
If in doubt just shovel him some hospital ball slop.
Recycle.
Try again.
Ah. I guy who runs into a brick wall and was a failure in France where they like that sort of thing. Yip really handy. A stupid game plan is our biggest issue at present. This is not exactly screaming Einstein.
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@BartMan BartMan!!!! It's been decades, how are you. Joan and I doing well......Mary ancient now 😀
I'm, actually dreading the game tomorrow. Been a long time since I'm second guessing, coach, players and loss of a 3nd, 3rd, or 4th plan 🤔.
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@Frye I agree that the jury is out and we will never know because he’s always injured. I don’t think he should even be on the tour until he has played on a consistent basis. He is becoming a Kahui where he could possibly be a solution if he was fit. When was the last time he played? I think it was the super rugby final.
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@Billy-Tell stop posting from alt accounts fozzie. You’ve got enough on your plate trying to get some sort of cutting edge in your midfield.
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Consider me corrected.
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@BartMan yeah scrums are a concern, however the only positive I can see is there aren't a huge number of scrums in the game nowadays, lineouts are 3 or 4 times more likely, and up until the Irish series we had a decent lineout...
But like you say, a defensive scrum on our own line might be time to get another strong drink!
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@Frye said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Great preview from Nick Easter
It was good up until he called the 2011 All Blacks an average team. They were easily the best team in the world and it was only the weight of history and an unprecedented injury crisis that kept everyone else in it.
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@Frye Some of the best quotes
“At the core of their issues is a defence which is at best, confused, at worst, downright disorganised"
"They are struggling in set-piece, confused in defence, and uncoordinated in handling, things that you simply don’t expect from New Zealand teams. Virtually all of their tries in the July Tests came from one-out runners:"
“In attack, the depth with which the All Blacks are trying to play sets them up to struggle against the best rush defences"
“For a country of huge rugby IQ, the hole they’ve got themselves in is quite remarkable but the issues are so obvious that good coaching and time together can sort them out.”
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@mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Bovidae said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@No-Quarter said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
So I guess the Ireland debacle was all Taylor and Reece's fault aye?
I mean Taylor played his part stinking up the joint but very harsh on Reece, I'd like to see him on the bench as he could make a real impact late in the game
The reserve backline mix is all wrong. Either Rieko or one of the Barretts would need to move to the wing if Clarke or Jordan went off injured. And then Havili to centre - that worked out well in the 3rd test.
One step forward with ST starting but then one step backwards with other selections.
I think it’s simple 10 or 15 get injured/replaced Mo’unga comes on.
If 11-14, QT comes on. QT plays centre if Ioane needs replacing. If a winger, then Ioane to wing and QT to centre.
the main fucking problem is if it's not for injury then you get some muddled shit like Ireland 3 where Mounga comes on, but we leave Barretts and Havili on and the entire backline looks like it was drawn out of a hat.
Having Barrett and Mounga in teh same 23 is pure injury cover these days. They are the exact same fucking player. And Apparently you can't sub a Barrett, so they both end up ont eh field together getting in everyone's way.
It's just muddled thinking, and more evidence of "pick your best 23 players, not your best team" which is very apparent and very detrimental
I reckon Beauden’s strategy is to be so unreliable at kicking that his brother gets a guaranteed place in the team. Genius really.