All Blacks vs Springboks II
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@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.
That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.
So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.
Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!
Helping keep Weber and the boys (especially Jordie) pimple-free
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@billy-tell said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Helping keep Weber and the boys (especially Jordie) pimple-free
Jordie? The Pimply Giraffe? You'll destroy him, don't do that
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@nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@chris-b said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@dan54 Some bastard here will probably come up with a video - except, now that I've asked them to. :).
Yep remember him spilling one badly in a tackle in first half. Also could have had a try when he popped a no look pass behind him to no one. He was expecting someone to be there but if he had a quick look he would have found Jordie eho would have been a good chance close to the line
Yeah - he definitely lost one forward trying to pass in the tackle - a few metres after he'd taken a high kick. I'm somewhat inclined to think that's what people have registered in their mind.
Yeah - I saw the no look pass in the corner.
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@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Maybe my imagination, but the Boks, especially the chasing wingers, don't actually go to catch their attacking kicks. Instead, they try to slap the ball back towards their line or just hinder the catcher by putting their hands in the way. Other players position themselves for the slap back. Obviously not illegal but it makes taking a clean catch difficult. ABs need to position themselves to compete for the "slap back". Or has this always been a tactic?
Just crowd the area with bodies and wait for an opposition back to jump and try and make the catch (because that’s what they’ve been coached to do) and if they make a mistake all the better.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.
That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.
So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.
Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!
We seem to have a lack of depth at halfback in NZ at the mo buy is it just because of the very high bar that A Smith has set for others to reach?
It's never been a great strength of New Zealand rugby, but what is infuriating is the other current candidates don't appear to be bothered by the disparity between their skills and his.
i wanted to play like Richie. I fucking tried. i just couldn't.
the dude is the GOAT for a reason.
Did you try working on your skills..?
no, dammit, is that what i did wrong?
I have a sneaking suspicion that's where my career fell over.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.
That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.
So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.
Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!
We seem to have a lack of depth at halfback in NZ at the mo buy is it just because of the very high bar that A Smith has set for others to reach?
It's never been a great strength of New Zealand rugby, but what is infuriating is the other current candidates don't appear to be bothered by the disparity between their skills and his.
i wanted to play like Richie. I fucking tried. i just couldn't.
the dude is the GOAT for a reason.
Did you try working on your skills..?
no, dammit, is that what i did wrong?
I have a sneaking suspicion that's where my career fell over.
Mine was having the sporting ability of a wombat, and the coordination of a drunken daddy long legs
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@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Maybe my imagination, but the Boks, especially the chasing wingers, don't actually go to catch their attacking kicks. Instead, they try to slap the ball back towards their line or just hinder the catcher by putting their hands in the way. Other players position themselves for the slap back. Obviously not illegal but it makes taking a clean catch difficult. ABs need to position themselves to compete for the "slap back". Or has this always been a tactic?
It smacks of Rassie, but England has used it. If the kick makes clean take unlikely pack the field around and try and slap ball your way, or almost as likely dive on the loose ball when not taken cleanly.
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.
That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.
So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.
Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!
We seem to have a lack of depth at halfback in NZ at the mo buy is it just because of the very high bar that A Smith has set for others to reach?
It's never been a great strength of New Zealand rugby, but what is infuriating is the other current candidates don't appear to be bothered by the disparity between their skills and his.
i wanted to play like Richie. I fucking tried. i just couldn't.
the dude is the GOAT for a reason.
Did you try working on your skills..?
no, dammit, is that what i did wrong?
I have a sneaking suspicion that's where my career fell over.
Mine was having the sporting ability of a wombat, and the coordination of a drunken daddy long legs
You would have owned me at any sport with those attributes.
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.
That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.
So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.
Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!
We seem to have a lack of depth at halfback in NZ at the mo buy is it just because of the very high bar that A Smith has set for others to reach?
It's never been a great strength of New Zealand rugby, but what is infuriating is the other current candidates don't appear to be bothered by the disparity between their skills and his.
i wanted to play like Richie. I fucking tried. i just couldn't.
the dude is the GOAT for a reason.
Did you try working on your skills..?
no, dammit, is that what i did wrong?
I have a sneaking suspicion that's where my career fell over.
Mine was having the sporting ability of a wombat, and the coordination of a drunken daddy long legs
Mind you the gals must have loved you!
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@oompb Hey OomPB, how are you doing? We had a scary time in July, but all okay now. You're in Perth now I think, hope you have settled down nicely in Aus.
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Mine was having the sporting ability of a wombat, and the coordination of a drunken daddy long legs
A least you had some sporting ability...
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@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Mine was having the sporting ability of a wombat, and the coordination of a drunken daddy long legs
A least you had some sporting ability...
The older he gets the faster he was.
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Mine was having the sporting ability of a wombat, and the coordination of a drunken daddy long legs
A least you had some sporting ability...
The older he gets the faster he was.
Now we know why they call him Nylons.
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You just hope for the sake of rugby , not just from an ab fan ,
The monotonous bombing fails miserably , we open them up , and it causes a rethink of tactics
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
You just hope for the sake of rugby , not just from an ab fan ,
The monotonous bombing fails miserably , we open them up , and it causes a rethink of tactics
I honestly don't mind their defence and kick tactics, but the cheating injury slow down wank needs to be destroyed
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Poos. Just realised this game is the later game. I have an early start so won't be able to stay up to watch. Fuck I am old.
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@crazy-horse said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Poos. Just realised this game is the later game. I have an early start so won't be able to stay up to watch. Fuck I am old.
11pm kickoff
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@crazy-horse said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Poos. Just realised this game is the later game. I have an early start so won't be able to stay up to watch. Fuck I am old.
11pm kickoff
Worse, it's an 8pm kick off where I am from!
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.
That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.
So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.
Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!
We seem to have a lack of depth at halfback in NZ at the mo buy is it just because of the very high bar that A Smith has set for others to reach?
It's never been a great strength of New Zealand rugby, but what is infuriating is the other current candidates don't appear to be bothered by the disparity between their skills and his.
you see several videos on all the socials about how smith gets to training an hour or two before he needs to and does all this extra work on his pass, you dont see the same for the others...they quite possibly do, but if they dont it make you wonder
I know for sure TJ does, I've seen a heap of videos of his extra training. H did one when he he's attached to a bungy, so he has to fight to get to the ball and pass. Then the ball is in a tyre, then in 2 tyres on top of each other, 3, 4, 5. Looked fucking hard!
I don;t think there is anything but professionalism on those that get a good number of tests, but everyone has a skill ceiling, and micro improvements are only micro!
This kinda weirds me out. TJ is good in contact, good at digging the ball out and getting a pass away under pressure.
What he is crap at - and utter crap compared to smith - is delivering really consistent, accurate passes quickly from clean ball. Maybe he should practice that instead of what he's already good at?
