Canes vs Chiefs
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<p>If a prop has played on the other side in first class rugby in say 5 matches as a starter and 10 matches if he's come on as a replacement then they should be considered suitably qualified. </p>
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<p>This nomination bullshit is stupid. The official who controls this should have the stats in front of him before the game and then everyone will know before the game what is what.</p> -
Geez Marshall, you do come off a bit of a dick when you spend half the game moaning. Leitch didn't pick and go off the scrum at the end as you aren't allowed to from uncontested scrums. Which any halfback would know right?<br><br>
Really liking the look of Seu and Fatialofa. <br><br>
Perenara makes some really glaring fuck ups in every game eh. Dropped ball at the end, shitty kicks on breaks from turnover ball. What's happened there, he's really gone backwards and I'd be very nervous seeing him in black. <br><br>
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<p>Apparently, this is the rule (as tweeted by Nigel Yalden):</p>
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<p>Law 3.5(k)</p>
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<p>Why is the first time we've seen this though? As Nepia pointed out, the same thing happened earlier in the season and it was still 15v15. It does kinda makes sense (though seems pretty rough) but this is the first time I've ever seen it.</p>
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<p>Anyway, phew. Chiefs dominated the first 20-25 minutes of the second half but gave the momentum back to the Canes near the end and did well to hold them off. Great game, happy with the win.</p>
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<p>A few thoughts:</p>
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<p>I was scared the defence would be shit against a good attack, especially with Ngatai out, but they did really well. Hope Ngatai's injury is just a niggle and he's back next week though.</p>
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<p>For what must be the 100th time, Rhys Marshall can fuck off, he's been given so many chances and he still can't throw to save his life. Elliot to start, Harris on the bench.</p>
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<p>Thought Cane comfortably won the 7s battle. He was everywhere, leading from the front.</p>
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<p>10s battle was a bit of a coin toss, Barrett the better runner but doesn't really do much with his backline if he doesn't break the line and fuck his kicking is atrocious (both territorial and place). Cruden ran a much better backline and had much better territorial kicking. To me that means they stay in their old spots, Cruden starting and Barrett as the impact 10/15 off the bench.</p>
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<p>9s battle was hard to say, TJP has plenty of talent but his pass sucks and he has no brains. Weber has better decision making but his pass isn't really accurate either and he struggles in contested rucks. TKB didn't get much time but I kinda thought he was the best by default. Should start next week I reckon.</p> -
Yeah I agree cane was way more prominent where it matters than Savea. Cane is a tackle machine.
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<p>Yeah that's weird that they only decided to enforce that law now. Same issue happened against SA last year but they were allowed 15.</p>
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<p>just shows what a good ref Joubert is</p> -
Great game but the scrum thing made it a bit of an anticlimax.<br>
Not sure i agree that Cruden won the 10 battle. Barrett was pretty sharp kicking aside (which was costly) Cruden didn't do much of note. Of course that doesnt change anything in the AB talks. <br><br>
The golden oldies scrums probably cost the canes the game in the end. They were getting on a roll and i wouldnt have been surprised if they got a penalty infront of the sticks from that first golden oldies one. Can't blame that though. Woodward just needed to catch the ball and it was done. <br><br>
Tamanivalu played the best game i have seen from him and D mac was good again. Im thinking a 14.smith 15. Barrett and Dmac supersub is looking good for the ABs while NMS is out. <br><br>
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<p>Whew! A helter skelter game, that the Chiefs were lucky to win. Really good defence at the end there, especially considering they were playing with 14.</p>
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<p>Beauden, mate, I suggest you find some new kicking boots. And TJP should not be anywhere near an AB jersey.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bones" data-cid="574408" data-time="1461406080">Bones, on 23 Apr 2016 - 11:08 AM, said:
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<p>Didn't look like it was his decision!</p>
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<p>it was his decision he came to the side line and conferred with the 4th ref.</p> -
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<p>Another good game.</p>
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<p>Just like at the end of the Highlanders game, Woodward shows that he's not clutch.</p>
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<p>It wasn't the easiest pass to catch though. Canes lost a game that should have been an easy win</p>
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<p>Barrett is quality but needs to have the kicking taken off him. His touch finding and goal kicking is not good enough but otherwise he's high quality </p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="KiwiMurph" data-cid="574386" data-time="1461403579"><p>Entertaining but weird game. Barrett was excellent goal kicking aside. Thought Cruden was bloody quiet and Julian Savea doesnt look like an AB.</p></blockquote>
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Agree. Cruden looked sluggish even before the head knock. <br><br>
J. Savea did nothing other than kill any momentum in attack. Very poor defensive effort also. <br><br>
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<p>Probably should have got the win but didn't. Chiefs kicked their points and we didn't. It was a good game a couple of players really stood up - Fatialofa a clear example. I'm not too angry about it overall because these things happen. Going to be a big slog to win the conference now.</p>
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Dunno why people give J Savea such a hard time. We all know he will wear 11 for NZ and do what he does: score tries.
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<p>Dunno why people give J Savea such a hard time. We all know he will wear 11 for NZ and do what he does: score tries.</p>
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<p>Savea, at least lately, needs the ball in space. If he doesn't get that then he isn't that dangerous. He didn't get the ball in space tonight - if he does then there is no one better to score tries (except maybe Nadolo).</p> -
<p>Cane and his tackling. It's great to have a 7 who runs all over the show and does lots of things. Ardie is a really good player and NZ and AB rugby is richer for having him, so long may he feature</p>
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<p>however, it's easy to forget the worth and value of a 7 that puts people down hard every movement. Richie was doing that latterly in his career and Sam Cane has a similar value add which is gold dust in Internationals. All in all it's good to have both of them but Ardie will keep Cane honest and Ardie will have the double figures on his jersey when the time comes (after Todd
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<p>Would love to know from anyone there if the Barrett dead in goal touch finder actually was. Sometimes touches get a bit hyped up in those situations and the canes player near the sideline seemed to be gesticulating ferociously. Just a bit of trivia</p>
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<p>Barrett kicks for goal too front on. Noddy Lynagh noticed it and it's something that's bugged me for a while now. It ain't the way forward</p>
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<p>I always feel so sorry for the woodwardisms. Poor blokes, it's like dropping a catch in cricket - no one feels worse about it than the dropper and the last thing he needs is abuse or being reminded that he should have caught it. </p>
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<p>TJP's hotheaded silly play all stems from putting your fucking hand on your heart during anthem time - sort your "look at me" emotions out son! You're good enough, just play the game and stop taking yourself so seriously - watch Cruden for examples</p>
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<p>oh and the world's gone mad when Tamanivalu type tries are awarded, (the one where he dropped it over the line). Yes i know it's the rule with TV but it's fucking wrong - always has been always will be</p> -
TJP should have a lock on the no. 2 sh position. He's much bigger than Webber and has more talent in his pinky finger than TKB has in his entire body. But unfortunately he lacks a brain, which is rather important for a SH to have. I thought he turned a corner last year but was sadly mistaken.<br><br>
I think we'll see B. Smith move back to wing this year. DMacs form has been ridiculous.<br><br>
I really rate Woodward but he farked up royally there.
