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    @chris-b said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @chris-b said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    And to round out thoughts on the match situation...the TAB currently says

    Draw $1.32
    NZ $3.90
    India $11

    Don't forget - if the match is drawn - we share the title. 🙂

    Those are crazy odds for India.
    They could easily roll us for under 200 and build up a big lead.

    They could - but, with both fingers crossed and behind my back - they need quite a lot to go their way from here.

    Firstly, they probably need the weather to be better tonight than forecast. And the moment the forecast would see the first session and a half washed out and light probably an issue in the third session.

    Then they need us to fall in a heap...twice.

    And they may need themselves to get bowled out for a middling (but not disastrous) score, because I'm not sure Virat would have the balls to set us a gettable target.

    I would suggest that is a particular talent we are well versed at, particularly if under pressure (even if that pressure is on themselves and not seen on the field). Hasnt happened much lately, but things like playing Australia or playing finals,.. recent consistency disappears

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    @siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    There are indian fans somewhere in the world telling each other to check out the crap being spouted on a nz sports forum.😉😀

    Basically we found Jamieson and Conway, otherwise we're the team that got annihilated in Australia last time

    We also smacked the Indians in NZ, who then went on to do the Aussies in their own back yard. Cricket can be a funny game at times, and it's fair to say everything that could have gone wrong on that Aus tour did, including no prep, losing a bowler to injury early in a test, and getting the worst of the pink ball conditions. Credit to Aus though, they did not take their foot off the throat after our early set backs.

    That's probably what grates Paine so much though. Knowing that all they needed to do to make the final was do exactly what we did, beat India at home. But instead they crumbled in front of their own fans. That has to hurt.

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    @no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    There are indian fans somewhere in the world telling each other to check out the crap being spouted on a nz sports forum.😉😀

    Basically we found Jamieson and Conway, otherwise we're the team that got annihilated in Australia last time

    We also smacked the Indians in NZ, who then went on to do the Aussies in their own back yard. Cricket can be a funny game at times, and it's fair to say everything that could have gone wrong on that Aus tour did, including no prep, losing a bowler to injury early in a test, and getting the worst of the pink ball conditions. Credit to Aus though, they did not take their foot off the throat after our early set backs.

    That's probably what grates Paine so much though. Knowing that all they needed to do to make the final was do exactly what we did, beat India at home. But instead they crumbled in front of their own fans. That has to hurt.

    And at their fortress, just to rub a bit of salt in.

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    @bovidae said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    I only watched the 1st session live.

    How much movement was Sharma getting? Gavaskar thought he would be the most threatening Indian bowler in those conditions.

    I'm just watching the early overs - Ishant just bowled his 5th. Neither he nor Bumrah is getting a whole lot at present. Bumrah getting a bit of late tail - but almost after the ball is past the stumps.

    Still in the lacquer phase, though.

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    And further to this Bishop and Atherton just discussing they're getting less than the NZers because they're more seamers than swing bowlers - and there's not as much in the pitch.

    Shami looks the most threatening to me - he's giving Tommy plenty of problems right now.

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    I will say one thing about this test, the spirit the game is being played in. There's a lot of hard but clean cricket on the field aand yet still time for genuine smiles and good spirits. The weather may not be the best advertisement for cricket but the technical excellence and quality of the players has been exceptional - truly is a "Test". I'll take the couch hiding every day over some of the other innings I've seen played (England I'm looking at you)

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    India's 217 probably worth 250 considering the slow outfield.

    Tricky conditions plus NZ's brittle batting conditions plus slow scoring rates means it's pretty even but weather/time will keep the light on NZ's win possibilities longer than India's.

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    @siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    All set up for Colin with the bat🙂

    Do we really need the endorsement of commentators and opposition fans? The play on the field says it all.

    Whining about what people say when your team leaves it all out on the field is pretty lame.

    Unlike in other threads, at least people aren't whining about the tone in the commentator's voice.

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    @virgil Just on Jamieson. He’s taken five “Michelles” in a year and a half. A bloody excellent haul and rightly being lauded. Yet Muralitheran chucked bowled an astonishing SIXTY SEVEN in his whole career ( over 18 years ) which puts things in perspective. Next best is Warnie with 37 and after that our boy Paddles with 36.

    Based on longevity and amazing performance you could argue Murali is the greatest bowler ever, on paper he’s quite a bit better than Warne although he never had a bowler as good as McGrath to compete with I guess ( although Herath got a shitload too ! )

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    @crazy-horse said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    All set up for Colin with the bat🙂

    Do we really need the endorsement of commentators and opposition fans? The play on the field says it all.

    Whining about what people say when your team leaves it all out on the field is pretty lame.

    Unlike in other threads, at least people aren't whining about the tone in the commentator's voice.

    I whined about them being able to be heard " off camera"🙂

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    @bovidae I watched 2nd and 3rd sessions. Shami looked the most dangerous. Bumrah did not seem to be firing at 100. Ishant had his moments. We really need Kane or Taylor to bat at least two sessions to build a decent lead. Scoring is not easy.

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    At this point in time, zero chance of play today. But full days looking likely next 2 days.

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    @majorrage said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    At this point in time, zero chance of play today. But full days looking likely next 2 days.

    Looks like it’s Dark side of the Ring on Neon tonight then.

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    @damo said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    Time for Wags to take his moment! Who the fuck said Wags shouldn't use the short stuff!

    Probably the same fluffybunny who wanted Henry in the team.

    Onya Wags !!!!!!!

    It was farken Damo. Eat your words mate! 😁

    Fucken was not.

    Retract immediately.

    I will begin drafting defamation proceedings in the morning.

    @canefan
    I note that you have not retracted your defamatory comment.

    I have drafted the defamation proceedings. Kindly indicate your Solicitor so that I may attend to service.

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    No chance of play today fellas.

    Draw looking even better money now.

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    @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @damo said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    Come on Wags, bowl like someone just kicked your cat

    Perfect man to bring on

    I'd like him to give them a bit of the short stuff as well, just to force them back in the crease. Who needs swashbuckling stroke play? This test cricket is compelling

    I don't agree. That would leak some runs. I reckon we are doing very well starving them of runs. Even if we aren't taking wickets we are frustrating the hell out of them and they aren't progressing their score.

    Love the short stuff. Love Wags 💘

    Damo read the post. You specifically said that Wags bowling short stuff would leak runs, ie not a good idea. Case dismissed

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    @majorrage said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    Conway flicks it to mid on. Soft wicket after all that hard work to get to 54 in very tricky conditions. And they are going off for bad light.

    Stumps. 101-2. NZ's day but Conway's dismissal slightly takes the edge off it.

    3 days to go. Lots of rain tomorrow. All three results possible but draw looks most likely IMHO.

    Yeah, agreed. Frustrating as all hell, after 3 weeks of great weather, to get a week of dogshit and the long range forecast, excellent again for month after this week. Sods law.

    If there's two days play left (I think there is), then I think we have a chance. It's tough going out there, but we've GOT To get a lead. A lead of 50/60 will be fantastic in these conditions, just as a shortfall of 50 will push things heavily in India's favour.

    The most frustrating thing though throughout has been the comm's. It's basically been Indian coverage with a bit of Doull. And all of the talk of great test matches over the years have ALL been about India, Australia and England. I think the commentators would regularly go for 30 odd minutes without even really mentioning New Zealand. I killed the TV after Ashwin started and one of the comm's said "Conway will have never faced a bowler as good as Ashwin".

    Ok dickhead, he's face all NZ Bowlers I'm sure, as well as Broad, Anderson etc ... but yeah, he's never faced a decent bowler.

    Morons.

    Yep, I've been watching on mute once it became clear that this was really supposed to be a celebration of Indian cricket. There was a brief discussions between Nasser and Doully about NZ's current strength at senior level, but it quickly turned into a compare and contrast of how strong India are always at U19 level too.

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    @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @damo said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    Come on Wags, bowl like someone just kicked your cat

    Perfect man to bring on

    I'd like him to give them a bit of the short stuff as well, just to force them back in the crease. Who needs swashbuckling stroke play? This test cricket is compelling

    I don't agree. That would leak some runs. I reckon we are doing very well starving them of runs. Even if we aren't taking wickets we are frustrating the hell out of them and they aren't progressing their score.

    Love the short stuff. Love Wags 💘

    Damo read the post. You specifically said that Wags bowling short stuff would leak runs, ie not a good idea. Case dismissed

    Nah, the comment which has forever sullied my reputation amongst all who saw was that I allegedly suggested Kyle Jamieson be dropped ahead of Matt Henry.

    My reputation can never recover from that slight.

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    @damo said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @damo said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    Come on Wags, bowl like someone just kicked your cat

    Perfect man to bring on

    I'd like him to give them a bit of the short stuff as well, just to force them back in the crease. Who needs swashbuckling stroke play? This test cricket is compelling

    I don't agree. That would leak some runs. I reckon we are doing very well starving them of runs. Even if we aren't taking wickets we are frustrating the hell out of them and they aren't progressing their score.

    Love the short stuff. Love Wags 💘

    Damo read the post. You specifically said that Wags bowling short stuff would leak runs, ie not a good idea. Case dismissed

    Nah, the comment which has forever sullied my reputation amongst all who saw was that I allegedly suggested Kyle Jamieson be dropped ahead of Matt Henry.

    My reputation can never recover from that slight.

    I don't remember acusing you of that. I think you have confused me with someone else

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