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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    @nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    I don't understand the Ennor comment-weren't they trying him at 13? With what level of success though?

    Yes this was going to be his first full season for the Saders at 13. But then he got injured.

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    but he did play a few games right-was it a success? I ask as some time ago I thought I read they moved JG in to accommodate Ennor but moving an AB 13 to 12 doesn't make much sense unless (as someone said above ) perhaps they thought JG would make a good 12 where outright speed is less of a concern.

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    @nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Nepia Because in December he was said to be living in LA?
    I understand he is separated but he probably still has a house there?
    https://www.magzter.com/article/Lifestyle/Esquire-Singapore/Taika-Waititi-Takes-On-The-Marvel-Star-Wars-And-Dc-Universes

    I still find it weird, I live in Australia, I'm just a NZer not a NZ born insert job here.

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    @Nepia said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Nepia Because in December he was said to be living in LA?
    I understand he is separated but he probably still has a house there?
    https://www.magzter.com/article/Lifestyle/Esquire-Singapore/Taika-Waititi-Takes-On-The-Marvel-Star-Wars-And-Dc-Universes

    I still find it weird, I live in Australia, I'm just a NZer not a NZ born insert job here.

    It is interesting, isn't it? I wonder if it was his PR team trying to make him look available to the US big bosses (don't worry we won't do a FoTC on you) or the Americans not thinking someone could be successful if not based in America..
    PS I assume you don't like being called a NZ-born Australian then 🙂

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    @nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Nepia said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Nepia Because in December he was said to be living in LA?
    I understand he is separated but he probably still has a house there?
    https://www.magzter.com/article/Lifestyle/Esquire-Singapore/Taika-Waititi-Takes-On-The-Marvel-Star-Wars-And-Dc-Universes

    I still find it weird, I live in Australia, I'm just a NZer not a NZ born insert job here.

    It is interesting, isn't it? I wonder if it was his PR team trying to make him look available to the US big bosses (don't worry we won't do a FoTC on you) or the Americans not thinking someone could be successful if not based in America..
    PS I assume you don't like being called a NZ-born Australian then 🙂

    It's all good, it's factually incorrect anyway ... no Aussie citizenship for this guy.

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    @Nepia said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Nepia said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Nepia Because in December he was said to be living in LA?
    I understand he is separated but he probably still has a house there?
    https://www.magzter.com/article/Lifestyle/Esquire-Singapore/Taika-Waititi-Takes-On-The-Marvel-Star-Wars-And-Dc-Universes

    I still find it weird, I live in Australia, I'm just a NZer not a NZ born insert job here.

    It is interesting, isn't it? I wonder if it was his PR team trying to make him look available to the US big bosses (don't worry we won't do a FoTC on you) or the Americans not thinking someone could be successful if not based in America..
    PS I assume you don't like being called a NZ-born Australian then 🙂

    It's all good, it's factually incorrect anyway ... no Aussie citizenship for this guy.

    Yeah, I would assume that using NZ-born indicates that someone isn't actually an NZ citizen, or has both but identifies as a citizen of another country. Strange.

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    @Nepia Nah, you're a Kiwi-Aussie or Kiwi-born Aussie unless you are just in transit. No representation without taxation:face_with_stuck-out_tongue_winking_eye:

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    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Nepia Nah, you're a Kiwi-Aussie or Kiwi-born Aussie unless you are just in transit. No representation without taxation:face_with_stuck-out_tongue_winking_eye:

    I thought they changed the rules in Oz in 2001 so you have to have Oz citizenship to vote, (but in NZ, Aussie-borns can still vote?) If so Kwozzies (Kiwis in Oz) have taxation but no representation!

    EDIT it just occurred to me a Kiwi living in Oz (or vice versa) is a (Tr)anzac!

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    @nostrildamus No idea. Just shit stirring.

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    @Nepia said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Nepia Because in December he was said to be living in LA?
    I understand he is separated but he probably still has a house there?
    https://www.magzter.com/article/Lifestyle/Esquire-Singapore/Taika-Waititi-Takes-On-The-Marvel-Star-Wars-And-Dc-Universes

    I still find it weird, I live in Australia, I'm just a NZer not a NZ born insert job here.

    It's about being pasifika, he says he's an NZ born (whatever island, I can't remember).

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    @ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    The thinking behind Goodhue at 12 for the Saders was that after we lost Crotty there wasn’t a natural successor.

    It was one of those combo decisions where there were two potential options in Goodhue and Havili.

    Havili was also the best fullback in the Saders squad.

    Then add to the mix that Razor wanted Ennor to transition to the wing.

    So you have a 10+ test All Black in Goodhue that has attributes to play 2nd 5 but will take some time.

    I think it’s worth persisting with but it’s going to take time as we have seen for others that have transitioned from wing or centre to 2nd 5.

    Jordie should have stayed in the Canterbury/Crusaders system, where he could have continued to play 2nd five and right about now he'd be a sort of SBW Mk II - a big, tall player, offloading all over the place, but not made of glass.

    Instead, he's clogging up a wing, not going to be a first choice fullback until his brother loses his pace, and the Canes are not going to play him at 2nd five while he's their best fullback and they have Laumape.

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    @Chris-B said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    The thinking behind Goodhue at 12 for the Saders was that after we lost Crotty there wasn’t a natural successor.

    It was one of those combo decisions where there were two potential options in Goodhue and Havili.

    Havili was also the best fullback in the Saders squad.

    Then add to the mix that Razor wanted Ennor to transition to the wing.

    So you have a 10+ test All Black in Goodhue that has attributes to play 2nd 5 but will take some time.

    I think it’s worth persisting with but it’s going to take time as we have seen for others that have transitioned from wing or centre to 2nd 5.

    Jordie should have stayed in the Canterbury/Crusaders system, where he could have continued to play 2nd five and right about now he'd be a sort of SBW Mk II - a big, tall player, offloading all over the place, but not made of glass.

    Instead, he's clogging up a wing, not going to be a first choice fullback until his brother loses his pace, and the Canes are not going to play him at 2nd five while he's their best fullback and they have Laumape.

    Alternative is he can come to the Blues (as he's rumoured to be doing when his brother is back). We'll play him in the midfield if he wants.

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    @Kirwan said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Chris-B said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    The thinking behind Goodhue at 12 for the Saders was that after we lost Crotty there wasn’t a natural successor.

    It was one of those combo decisions where there were two potential options in Goodhue and Havili.

    Havili was also the best fullback in the Saders squad.

    Then add to the mix that Razor wanted Ennor to transition to the wing.

    So you have a 10+ test All Black in Goodhue that has attributes to play 2nd 5 but will take some time.

    I think it’s worth persisting with but it’s going to take time as we have seen for others that have transitioned from wing or centre to 2nd 5.

    Jordie should have stayed in the Canterbury/Crusaders system, where he could have continued to play 2nd five and right about now he'd be a sort of SBW Mk II - a big, tall player, offloading all over the place, but not made of glass.

    Instead, he's clogging up a wing, not going to be a first choice fullback until his brother loses his pace, and the Canes are not going to play him at 2nd five while he's their best fullback and they have Laumape.

    Alternative is he can come to the Blues (as he's rumoured to be doing when his brother is back). We'll play him in the midfield if he wants.

    With Ioane?

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    @Machpants said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Kirwan said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Chris-B said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    The thinking behind Goodhue at 12 for the Saders was that after we lost Crotty there wasn’t a natural successor.

    It was one of those combo decisions where there were two potential options in Goodhue and Havili.

    Havili was also the best fullback in the Saders squad.

    Then add to the mix that Razor wanted Ennor to transition to the wing.

    So you have a 10+ test All Black in Goodhue that has attributes to play 2nd 5 but will take some time.

    I think it’s worth persisting with but it’s going to take time as we have seen for others that have transitioned from wing or centre to 2nd 5.

    Jordie should have stayed in the Canterbury/Crusaders system, where he could have continued to play 2nd five and right about now he'd be a sort of SBW Mk II - a big, tall player, offloading all over the place, but not made of glass.

    Instead, he's clogging up a wing, not going to be a first choice fullback until his brother loses his pace, and the Canes are not going to play him at 2nd five while he's their best fullback and they have Laumape.

    Alternative is he can come to the Blues (as he's rumoured to be doing when his brother is back). We'll play him in the midfield if he wants.

    With Ioane?

    Yep.

    Chances are that Leon will have graduated to the ABs coaching team by then, so there should be some clown in charge ready to play 12 Rieko; 13 Jordie. 🙂

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    @Chris-B said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    Chances are that Leon will have graduated to the ABs coaching team by then, so there should be some clown in charge ready to play 12 Rieko; 13 Jordie.

    His name is Ian and he will probably be looking for a job by then.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    @Machpants said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Kirwan said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Chris-B said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    The thinking behind Goodhue at 12 for the Saders was that after we lost Crotty there wasn’t a natural successor.

    It was one of those combo decisions where there were two potential options in Goodhue and Havili.

    Havili was also the best fullback in the Saders squad.

    Then add to the mix that Razor wanted Ennor to transition to the wing.

    So you have a 10+ test All Black in Goodhue that has attributes to play 2nd 5 but will take some time.

    I think it’s worth persisting with but it’s going to take time as we have seen for others that have transitioned from wing or centre to 2nd 5.

    Jordie should have stayed in the Canterbury/Crusaders system, where he could have continued to play 2nd five and right about now he'd be a sort of SBW Mk II - a big, tall player, offloading all over the place, but not made of glass.

    Instead, he's clogging up a wing, not going to be a first choice fullback until his brother loses his pace, and the Canes are not going to play him at 2nd five while he's their best fullback and they have Laumape.

    Alternative is he can come to the Blues (as he's rumoured to be doing when his brother is back). We'll play him in the midfield if he wants.

    With Ioane?

    Probably, might as well work on an AB potential pairing 🙂

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    @Chris-B said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    Instead, he's clogging up a wing, not going to be a first choice fullback until his brother loses his pace,

    Or heads off to Japan

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  • NepiaN Online
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    @Machpants said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Nepia said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Nepia Because in December he was said to be living in LA?
    I understand he is separated but he probably still has a house there?
    https://www.magzter.com/article/Lifestyle/Esquire-Singapore/Taika-Waititi-Takes-On-The-Marvel-Star-Wars-And-Dc-Universes

    I still find it weird, I live in Australia, I'm just a NZer not a NZ born insert job here.

    It's about being pasifika, he says he's an NZ born (whatever island, I can't remember).

    North.

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    @Darren Winger will never change 🙂

    Oh, you meant the AB squad. As you were!

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