Stormers v Hurricanes (Round 1)
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@macandcheese the problem for the Stormers, once they play the better teams that won’t be bullied , their MO won’t ge good enough ..I thought the Canes made them look way better than what they were, a really good team would have punished the Canes for their 2nd half effort...was really disappointed with TJ and Jordie , you really need your seniors to stand up and have clear heads, in the case of TJ he lost the plot, easy to blame people around you , but when your own basics are letting you down , no one else to blame but yourself , looked like he was trying to play the game on his own..
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@Canes4life said in Stormers v Hurricanes (Round 1):
I don’t think things will be getting much better with this coaching staff either. They are all out of their league. The Canes are just a rabble at the moment.
That's the biggest issue. Hopeless coaching staff. Plumtree liked hopeless plodders like Blackwell and Princep (and Fletcher) but he had the ability to get the best out of plodders like this.
But its goes back to the Board and management who appointed these dudes. Just look at the Canes website. The player information isn't up to date FFS. These reflects an ineptness that is a concern as a Canes fan. The rot is at the top and its now flowed downwards. And it will get worse if not addressed as the best players will move on.
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I'd agreed with you last year They had best pack in SR, dominated Crusaders in CT Yet they finished bottom of SA Conf
This year, here's a list of key forwards teams have lost:
Saders: Reid, Whitelock, Franks, Todd
Chiefs: Retallick
Landers: Franklin, Hemepo, L Whitelock, Squire
Blues: LOL
Bulls: Brits, RG Synman, Lood de Jager, Vermulean
Sharks: Du Preez Twins, Beast, Coenie, Botha, Vermulean
Lions: Marx, Whiteley
Jaguares: Matera, LavaninniHence Stormers have a greater margin of error if Plan A doesn't work as their rivals are much weaker up front I can see Stormers making it to semi finals
Jaguares & Stormers in 2 horse to win SA Conf Very contrasting sides
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Great win for the Stormers. Herschel Jantjies, Jaco Coetzee and PSdT play well.
Hurricanes rush defence worked well.
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@Steven-Harris said in Stormers v Hurricanes (Round 1):
Omg , bought down from red to yellow , WTF , it should not have been a penalty in my book , just a bloody good hit
Particularly when just a few minutes later a Stormer had what was an even higher tackle completely overlooked. Will try and work out how to post a screen shot of the replay later.
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Stormers look like they could be real contenders with a monster pack and class halves.
Canes - where do you begin. Yikes. Their strike players saw next to no ball. I think they would be better off running Jordie at 10 but it won't matter much if the pack doesn't show up.
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@KiwiMurph said in Stormers v Hurricanes (Round 1):
Stormers look like they could be real contenders with a monster pack and class halves.
Canes - where do you begin. Yikes. Their strike players saw next to no ball. I think they would be better off running Jordie at 10 but it won't matter much if the pack doesn't show up.
Its one of the weakness forward pack I can remember. Where to begin? Maybe stop selecting rubbish players when there are other options
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@macandcheese said in Stormers v Hurricanes (Round 1):
Finally this late tackle on Kolisi by Riccitellli was disgraceful Late hit to the knee I'd ban the fluffybunny for 2 weeks
Err ... I think you may be overstating the issue.
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@booboo Yeah, doesn't meet the red-card-threshold. Late, and arguably a shoulder charge (he doesn't seem to use his arms), but it was low, so never more than yellow. Would need to see it at full speed again to see whether it was worth a yellow.
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Really disappointed at all the niggle from the Canes when things did not go their way. Lomax was obstructive and Kirifi pushed his luck with Du Toit. They need to get their minds set on constructive rugby, and use their talented backline. Good efforts from Kirifi, Evans, Booth and Blackwell nevertheless.
The Stormers look a threat. Nel is a real prospect at 13 and Jantjies and Willemse add spark to an awesome pack.
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@Stargazer said in Stormers v Hurricanes (Round 1):
@junior I've the impression that TJP tried doing too much by himself and got frustrated due to some of his team mates being invisible and underperforming. He should have kept a calm head, but I guess that's difficult if you don't have a good 10 to steer the ship.
This is his problem, though - he's always trying to do it all himself. Sometimes it looks like he's playing a separate game to all of his teammates
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@macandcheese said in Stormers v Hurricanes (Round 1):
I'd agreed with you last year They had best pack in SR, dominated Crusaders in CT Yet they finished bottom of SA Conf
This year, here's a list of key forwards teams have lost:
Saders: Reid, Whitelock, Franks, Todd
Chiefs: Retallick
Landers: Franklin, Hemepo, L Whitelock, Squire
Blues: LOL
Bulls: Brits, RG Synman, Lood de Jager, Vermulean
Sharks: Du Preez Twins, Beast, Coenie, Botha, Vermulean
Lions: Marx, Whiteley
Jaguares: Matera, LavaninniHence Stormers have a greater margin of error if Plan A doesn't work as their rivals are much weaker up front I can see Stormers making it to semi finals
Jaguares & Stormers in 2 horse to win SA Conf Very contrasting sides
The Stormers have lost Eben Etzebeth.
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Disappointed with Kirifi and Scrafton. Neither imposed themselves on the opposition, and I thought the Canes loosies in particular were invisible. Scrafton has his chance now after having made the move from the Blues, and should have grabbed it with both hands, but sadly didn't.
Have (had) high hopes for Kirifi in another colour this season. but he really went into his shell when confronted by capable opposition.
The pack need - well other than a bloody good rocket up the proverbial - a leader, someone who owns the responsibility and will gather the team together, hell change things up if need be. When is Coles back - he needs to stand up to the plate,
Don't know who the answer is at 10 - but it aint Fletcher Smith, at least not right now, Maybe JGB would be a better option (other than grabbing a certain L McClutchie).
TJP and Jordie were absolutely clueless. Again disappointing, given the positive showing of ABs in other sides. They needed to calm the side and take stock, not run around exclaining to the ref like headless chickens. A few mature, cool heads would have worked wonders.
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Etzsbeth is a quality player off to Toulon
However he won't be missed for following reason:
- Injured last SR seasons so has missed a bunch of games
2, Stormers have depth in 2nd row with Wiese, JD Schikerlling & Moereat
- Injured last SR seasons so has missed a bunch of games
