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    I was seduced by our performance in the QF, but our forwards couldn't make inroads up front today, and everything fell apart from there. England's defence suffocated any chances we created, and they placed an assertive posession game that we couldn't compete with. We were lucky the score was not worse for us

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    @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    I was seduced by our performance in the QF, but our forwards couldn't make inroads up front today, and everything fell apart from there. England's defence suffocated any chances we created, and they placed an assertive posession game that we couldn't compete with. We were lucky the score was not worse for us

    The most annoying thing was the lack of composure. We had to steal that game despite being outplayed...but each half-chance was buried by a forced offload, not avoiding touch etc. Other than not starting Cane, I don't see any other forwards in NZ that could have changed the pack for the better. BFA and maybe Laumape of all people might have helped in the backs.

    Think 2020 should be about rebuilding, starting with looking at some up and coming talent for the pack.

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    @Billy-Tell said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    I was seduced by our performance in the QF, but our forwards couldn't make inroads up front today, and everything fell apart from there. England's defence suffocated any chances we created, and they placed an assertive posession game that we couldn't compete with. We were lucky the score was not worse for us

    The most annoying thing was the lack of composure. We had to steal that game despite being outplayed...but each half-chance was buried by a forced offload, not avoiding touch etc. Other than not starting Cane, I don't see any other forwards in NZ that could have changed the pack for the better. BFA and maybe Laumape of all people might have helped in the backs.

    Think 2020 should be about rebuilding, starting with looking at some up and coming talent for the pack.

    Cane's exclusion was baffling, why mess with the blossoming combination of Read, Savea and Cane? Our forwards failed to go up the guts which was a smart play, we seemed obsessed with spreading it wide even though that wasn't working. Not sure that's personnel, rather tactics

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    @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Billy-Tell said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    I was seduced by our performance in the QF, but our forwards couldn't make inroads up front today, and everything fell apart from there. England's defence suffocated any chances we created, and they placed an assertive posession game that we couldn't compete with. We were lucky the score was not worse for us

    The most annoying thing was the lack of composure. We had to steal that game despite being outplayed...but each half-chance was buried by a forced offload, not avoiding touch etc. Other than not starting Cane, I don't see any other forwards in NZ that could have changed the pack for the better. BFA and maybe Laumape of all people might have helped in the backs.

    Think 2020 should be about rebuilding, starting with looking at some up and coming talent for the pack.

    Cane's exclusion was baffling, why mess with the blossoming combination of Read, Savea and Cane? Our forwards failed to go up the guts which was a smart play, we seemed obsessed with spreading it wide even though that wasn't working. Not sure that's personnel, rather tactics

    Yeah I have to say I was getting angry pretty early in the game thinking of Shags words about wanting height and us being so ineffectual at the lineout.

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    I was so simple in my wanting cathartic release.
    I walked home from the stadium through deserted dodgy areas, no mugging.
    I went to a standing bar, got thoroughly re-drunk, yelling “fuck” at the ceiling once in a while. Much to the amusement of locals.
    Then I went down to the riverside with a couple of drinks and cigarettes, found a gang of teenagers hanging out causing trouble. Sat down close to them, and when I got eye contact... gestured to the litter-mess they'd caused. They cleaned their shit up, and left.
    What do I need to do to get beaten up in this country? I just want my body to feel like my mind does.

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    Eddie's press conference:

    Interesting that he talks about preparing for this game for two and a half years.

    I don't think Hansen and co. realised how much the England forwards had improved and what a threat they would be.

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    It seems the sun is coming up today... meh.

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    @Paekakboyz said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    It seems the sun is coming up today... meh.

    It's just an illusion...

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    Well, I watched the game at home and was amazed at the England performance. I thought we had a chance but... Even though we were pretty dominant more or less throughout the game and it was ours to lose almost, there was always in the back of my mind that you just cannot trust a Kiwi to know when to say enough is enough. Having said that I felt reasonably comfortable with four minutes to go and two scores needed but even then... hmmm.

    I didn't watch it at the pub as a 9.00 am kick off would have meant ruining the rest of the day but at around 11.40 I got a call from a mate. "I'm down at the Royal Oak and I need someone to talk rugby to. I can't go home and talk to her". So the rest of the day has been washout really. No complaints though.

    Thanks to all who have posted congratulations and compliments on our performance. That takes a bit of doing, especially after the success you've had.

    No where's that bottle of red?

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    @Catogrande I don't think you're allowed to just say red. I think you have to announce every bottle of wine by it's full name and year.

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    @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Catogrande I don't think you're allowed to just say red. I think you have to announce every bottle of wine by it's full name and year.

    My dear fellow wine IS red. It's only white wine that's white.

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    @Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Catogrande I don't think you're allowed to just say red. I think you have to announce every bottle of wine by it's full name and year.

    My dear fellow wine IS red. It's only white wine that's white.

    Astounding arrogance.

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    When you look at our results the last few years , it isnt that surprising really I guess , almost a trend

    Ireland twice, an out of jail win against England, a loss and a draw against the Lions , South Africa , Perth , and now this ,

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    @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Billy-Tell said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    I was seduced by our performance in the QF, but our forwards couldn't make inroads up front today, and everything fell apart from there. England's defence suffocated any chances we created, and they placed an assertive posession game that we couldn't compete with. We were lucky the score was not worse for us

    The most annoying thing was the lack of composure. We had to steal that game despite being outplayed...but each half-chance was buried by a forced offload, not avoiding touch etc. Other than not starting Cane, I don't see any other forwards in NZ that could have changed the pack for the better. BFA and maybe Laumape of all people might have helped in the backs.

    Think 2020 should be about rebuilding, starting with looking at some up and coming talent for the pack.

    Cane's exclusion was baffling, why mess with the blossoming combination of Read, Savea and Cane? Our forwards failed to go up the guts which was a smart play, we seemed obsessed with spreading it wide even though that wasn't working. Not sure that's personnel, rather tactics

    Yeah I have to say I was getting angry pretty early in the game thinking of Shags words about wanting height and us being so ineffectual at the lineout.

    I thought Shag had made some outstanding selections in the past months but dropping Cane and having Joedie on the bench instead of Bender were two shockers imho. That said congrats to England who were terrific.

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    @sparky great call

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    Five moments that cost the ABs the World Cup Semi Final:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116954125/all-blacks-v-england-five-moments-that-cost-new-zealand-the-world-cup-semifinal

    Very good piece.

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    Haaaaa

    After Whitelock's hand made contact with Farrell's head to get him out of the ruck, TJ Perenara asked Farrell if he was playing in the Premier League, rather than the Rugby World Cup semifinal.

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    @sparky said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    Five moments that cost the ABs the World Cup Semi Final:

    Very good piece.

    Surprisingly good! I'm cautious of reading any media for a day or three... but that was pretty balanced

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