RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)
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@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Oh shit that's poor timing re their grandfather, how are they going to get to the funeral? They may fly back for a day?
I certainly hope that's not the plan.
They won't come back. What better way to honour the man's memory than win the game? I am sure he would have wanted it that way
That last line made me laugh. (Unless of course you actually knew him personally)
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@Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Oh shit that's poor timing re their grandfather, how are they going to get to the funeral? They may fly back for a day?
I certainly hope that's not the plan.
I'm with Spock on this one
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@Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Oh shit that's poor timing re their grandfather, how are they going to get to the funeral? They may fly back for a day?
I certainly hope that's not the plan.
They won't come back. What better way to honour the man's memory than win the game? I am sure he would have wanted it that way
That last line made me laugh. (Unless of course you actually knew him personally)
No. But his son was a rugby head and his three grandsons are too. I suspect he might have liked rugby a bit. And he's farming stock. Not prone to histrionics
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@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Well lads....looks like it's us leprachauns against you sheep shaggers hehe!
Ahem, Australia has more sheep than us.....
Not as attractive tho...
...apparently
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@canefan arent 4 of the 5 boys rugby heads? Assume the other brother played too, but got swallowed up in the shadows.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@canefan arent 4 of the 5 boys rugby heads? Assume the other brother played too, but got swallowed up in the shadows.
Probably purposefully stopped him playing, don't want the secret NZ Rugby DNA gene editing program to come under suspicion.
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@akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Discipline is crucial. We can't be giving away the silly penalties that we gave away in Dublin.
Whitelock and Brodie were the two biggest offenders that night. They both need huge games against Ryan and Henderson who are both world class.Long periods defending concerns me most, that is where we are most likely to concede penalties and or cards , and not rocket science to think this what Ireland will try to do .... again
That's always the concern when playing Ireland. They average something like 200 rucks a game which often leads to the defending team infringing. Not too dissimilar to the Brumbies in the late 90s.
How the ruck is refereed will be important. Refs at this WC are allowing the attacking teams to not release the ball and pilferring stats have been way down as a result. This will obviously favour Ireland's game plan which is based on ball retention.
Cards also will be a factor. Since we will probably be making a lot more tackles than them, it's crucial that we don't give the ref a reason to send someone to the bin.
That's interesting - they've been really relaxed on attacking players coming in from the side and sealing off too, so that probably has a fair bit to do with it. Also interesting that this will lead to longer periods of defending which will lead to fatigued players making mistakes in the tackle...
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@Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
TAB odds are clearcut for all the QFs.
https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/quick-multi
If you believe these; South Africa, New Zealand, England and Wales will all win comfortably.
I'd bet against that happening - though, I reckon the Jaapies will be comfortably too good for Japan.
4.39 is worth a punt on Ireland
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@MajorRage Yeah - even though I think we're favourites, I don't think we're that much favourites.
You only need to start thinking about our obituary for Sunday and, "With the benefit of hindsight....". We haven't been hugely convincing this year - very good at times, shaky at others.
I guess everyone is counting that we're going to do the same as 2015 and suddenly hit peak and irresistible form. Hope Steve's had that powder carefully locked in his suitcase and under close watch. We don't want to open the bag in Tokyo and discover the typhoon somehow seeped in!
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@Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@MajorRage Yeah - even though I think we're favourites, I don't think we're that much favourites.
You only need to start thinking about our obituary for Sunday and, "With the benefit of hindsight....". We haven't been hugely convincing this year - very good at times, shaky at others.
I guess everyone is counting that we're going to do the same as 2015 and suddenly hit peak and irresistible form. Hope Steve's had that powder carefully locked in his suitcase and under close watch. We don't want to open the bag in Tokyo and discover the typhoon somehow seeped in!
As opposed to Ireland's irresistible form?
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@Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Is there any major step-down with Bundee Aki's probable replacement?
A step-up with Henshaw hopefully.
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@Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Bones Who knows what powder Schmidt has in his magazine?
Not as dry as Steve’s.
BRING ON IRELAND!!! Chahooooo
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@Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Bones Who knows what powder Schmidt has in his magazine?
I suspect they are on a downward slide after their pinnacle 18 months ago. Same game plan, Japan out thought them and out paced them. If we are on song it could be a big win. And like the 2015 QF, there are scores to settle
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@mariner4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@No-Quarter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Hansen knows this Irish team very well now.
Last year in Dublin New Zealand were at the end of a hard season and had a tough game against the English.
They will be fresh and well prep'd. I can see them sucking the Irish in the centre of the park, forcing them to commit players to the ruck, then hitting them out wide. I hope I'm wrong, obviously, but I can see a pretty big scoreline for the AB's.
You may be new to the Fern but you've obviously played this underdog game before, and I won't let this continue. Ireland are odds on favourites, theirs to lose. Would be very surprised if the ABs got up.
Err
New Zealand 1/5 on
Ireland 5/1Just sayin like...
pfffft, sounds like another Paddy Power promotion to merk people.
Yes - Paddy Power and 16 other firms on Oddschecker.
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@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Bones Who knows what powder Schmidt has in his magazine?
I suspect they are on a downward slide after their pinnacle 18 months ago. Same game plan, Japan out thought them and out paced them. If we are on song it could be a big win. And like the 2015 QF, there are scores to settle
18 months ago they were in the middle of the Six Nations.
How far down the slide were they, when they played Argentina and NZ?
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@Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Bones Who knows what powder Schmidt has in his magazine?
I suspect they are on a downward slide after their pinnacle 18 months ago. Same game plan, Japan out thought them and out paced them. If we are on song it could be a big win. And like the 2015 QF, there are scores to settle
18 months ago they were in the middle of the Six Nations.
How far down the slide were they, when they played Argentina and NZ?
The team had a middling 6N and RWC build up. They got found out by Japan, and beat Scotland in a game that was played at slo mo pace. Of course they are a danger and everything that has come before will count for nothing if they can win on the weekend. But my observation (often from afar) is that after the highlight of the Dublin win against the ABs they have looked less than their best. Time will tell if the team were merely keeping their powder dry for an AB QF. Maybe that was the plan all along, knock us out in the QF before having to potentially meet us deeper in the tournament?
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