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  • sparkyS Offline
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    Very unlikely now that an All Black will be top try-scorer in this competition.

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    Every player in the English squad just earned an easy 25k NZ for not turning up. No idea how much the AB's get. No doubt the players would rather play as they must be getting bored of training non stop.

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12275393

    Herald saying this was the team - does this mean Jack Goodhue has the inside running at centre for the knockouts? Aside from Barrett/Whitelock that looks like the top team to me.

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    According to the article below:

    Here's what the All Blacks team would have been:

    1 Joe Moody
    2 Codie Taylor
    3 Nepo Laulala
    4 Scott Barrett
    5 Brodie Retallick
    6 Ardie Savea
    7 Sam Cane
    8 Kieran Read (C)
    9 Aaron Smith
    10 Richie Mo'unga
    11 George Bridge
    12Anton Lienert-Brown
    13 Jack Goodhue
    14 Sevu Reece
    15 Beauden Barrett

    Reserves:
    16 Dane Coles
    17 Ofa Tu'ungafasi
    18 Angus Ta'avao
    19 Sam Whitelock
    20 Matt Todd
    21 TJ Perenara
    22 Sonny Bill Williams
    23 Ben Smith

    We'll probably never know for sure.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12275393

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    @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool 😎:

    @Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool 😎:

    @Billy-Tell Especially for Parisse, as he was going to play his last game vs the ABs. He also made his debut against the ABs in 2002 so that would have been a great story.

    A 17 year pro career is nothing to sneeze at, even for @MN5

    Shame he didn’t get that first and last moment. ABs probably would’ve given him a nice send off on the field after the game too.

    And to complete the connection, Parisse's first game for Italy at a RWC was in 2003 against......NZ. I was at that test in Melbourne.

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    I fuckin hate super-tyhoons

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    Don't understand why they couldn't move the game by a couple of days to later in the week - monday or tuesday even, and to stadiums flocated urther inland away from the eye of the storm.

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    Well that’s another 80 mins lost for Ioane to play himself into form ...

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    @Jailbreak7 said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool 😎:

    Don't understand why they couldn't move the game by a couple of days to later in the week - monday or tuesday even, and to stadiums flocated urther inland away from the eye of the storm.

    For those playing quarterfinals (England, France, ABs/Italy etc) that means they would be at a disadvantage for the quarterfinals the following weekend.

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    @Jailbreak7 They couldn't, because like the Cricket World Cup, their rules stipulate that pool matches can't be shifted.

    Cancelled Matches
    Where a pool Match cannot be commenced on the day in which it is scheduled, it shall not be postponed to the following day, and shall be considered as cancelled. In such situations, the result shall be declared a draw and Teams will be allocated two Match points each and no score registered. For the avoidance of doubt, no bonus points will be awarded.

    Why they set that rule in the first place is a different question.

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    @JK said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool 😎:

    @Billy-Tell said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool 😎:

    Would Italy have beaten NZ? Highly unlikely. Would France have beaten England? Also unlikely.

    But man if you’re an Italian fan you must be unhappy as they were still potentially in with a chance of reaching the quarters.

    As for England, Argentina game turned into a stroll and French game is not happening, so they will be well and truly rested come the knockouts. It also puts us on a collision course with England should both teams win quarter final.

    Just lame

    Was always mapping out as an NZ vs England semi though wasn't it? As soon as pools were announced it looked more likely than not that we would meet them.

    And yep they could be rested but could equally be underdone. Same for us.

    This is correct. However, had everything gone as planned, England would have been coming off two tough pool matches against a fired-up Argentina (this turned into a cake walk because of the red card) and France (this match won't go ahead) and then a QF against the Wallabies before playing (possibly) us in a SF. Under those circumstances, they would be absolutely knackered by the time the SF rolled around and, had they won that match, they would have been well and truly cooked by the time of the final.

    I honestly think their odds of winning the whole thing have now improved significantly. Provided they get past Aus, they will be absolutely humming by the time the SF rolls around. Our only hope is that they're completely underdone - like us in 2007 - and that they can't match the Aussies' battle-hardened intensity (a bit like what happened to the Aussies in 2007 or, indeed, the English in 2011).

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    @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool 😎:

    I honestly don't know why they've felt the necessity to cancel the games two days before they're due to be played. Why wouldn't you just say we're very worried and there's a strong prospect that we may need to cancel and we'll make a decision at 10am on game day?

    I can't recall a cricket match ever being cancelled before it was due to start.

    @gt12 might be able to comment on what usually happens in Japan but my only guess is they didn't want lots of extra people in cities that were meant to be in lock down and/or evacuated. Agree it seems crazy to just flat out cancel it this far out.

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    @No-Quarter But in this day and age, I'd imagine 90 percent of people have pre-paid holiday accommodation and will turn up there anyway.

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    @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool 😎:

    @No-Quarter But in this day and age, I'd imagine 90 percent of people have pre-paid holiday accommodation and will turn up there anyway.

    That's true, and, further to that I'd say given Japan's population size absorbing a few thousand fans wouldn't be a massive deal overall. So yup, I'm stumped.

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    @MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool 😎:

    Well that’s another 80 mins lost for Ioane to play himself into form ...

    And Brodie for match fitness, unfortunately...

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    @Siam that is a genuine shame, that one

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    @No-Quarter said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool 😎:

    @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool 😎:

    I honestly don't know why they've felt the necessity to cancel the games two days before they're due to be played. Why wouldn't you just say we're very worried and there's a strong prospect that we may need to cancel and we'll make a decision at 10am on game day?

    I can't recall a cricket match ever being cancelled before it was due to start.

    @gt12 might be able to comment on what usually happens in Japan but my only guess is they didn't want lots of extra people in cities that were meant to be in lock down and/or evacuated. Agree it seems crazy to just flat out cancel it this far out.

    I think they are worried about the travel - trains will probably get shut down, so many ppl might not be able to make it to venues. Nevertheless, I don't see why that should influence them to cancel games two days out.

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    Yeah it's a bit wierd citing concern for fans who've already committed to this game(s) then devise that the solution here, for the fans is to deny them of what they're there for.

    Wonder how many times the phrase "law suit" came up in their meetings to cancel games a full 48 hours before seeing what the weather was like on the day?

    I'm obviously still in denial phase...

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    @Siam said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool 😎:

    before seeing what the weather was like on the day?

    They really could look like idiots - chances are they won't - but if I had gone all the way there, had tickets, paid for a hotel- the weather is O.K. I would be demanding some answers. I am already, as this just seems dumb. Do it on the morning of the match.

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    @Snowy yep, that's the million dollar question - is it too late onto make the call at 6am on match day?

    me thinks that would cost more logistical and set up money (if cancelled on the day) than 2 days out...

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