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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    @Frank said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

    Perhaps that simply means Squire to come back.

    oh well fuck, that changes every thing. Hallelujah, we're saved...

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  • Chris B.C Online
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    @mariner4life I'm hopefully going to the Ta$man-Otago game tomorrow night and will keep an eye out for Hansen sitting in the stand.

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    @Frank I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that's true. They may well be whittling away at the loose forward contenders who will make up the rest of the squad.

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    @Chris-B Check the pie cart first. 🙂

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    It seems there's a bit too much stock/trust put in things Hansen says in pressers. How many times has he said things like Hemopo is a 6 only, Barrett is a 10 only, Cane/Savea/Read won't play together...

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    @Bones said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

    It seems there's a bit too much stock/trust put in things Hansen says in pressers. How many times has he said things like Hemopo is a 6 only, Barrett is a 10 only, Cane/Savea/Read won't play together...

    he absolutely just makes shit up on the fly to throw everyone off what he is actually thinking

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    I’m hoping like hell , read is just going through the motions and saving himself to peak later, like Richie and dc were doing this time in 2015.
    That didn’t become obvious until the WC stages when they went to another level.

    Hopefully some of the other older guys like bsmith likewise

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    @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

    I’m hoping like hell , read is just going through the motions and saving himself to peak later, like Richie and dc were doing this time in 2015.
    That didn’t become obvious until the WC stages when they went to another level.

    ... you mean, say, keeping the powder dry 😃

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    @nzzp said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

    @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

    I’m hoping like hell , read is just going through the motions and saving himself to peak later, like Richie and dc were doing this time in 2015.
    That didn’t become obvious until the WC stages when they went to another level.

    ... you mean, say, keeping the powder dry 😃

    As long as he snorts the lions share come RWC.

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    Patronising bulshit from Fox.

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    @Frank said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

    Perhaps that simply means Squire to come back.

    Or maybe its gonna be a total shock and Akira is coming after all, the whole fitness thing has been a smokescreen he's out #1 #6 and opposition sides have zero footage of him in black to try and counter him. Genius!

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  • ACT CrusaderA Do not disturb
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    @Snowy said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

    @Kirwan said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

    @ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

    @nzzp we had our best fullback playing fullback last weekend though. Isn’t that a good a thing?

    Not really, as our best fullback is also our best ten (IMO by quite a distance). Ten is more important that 15, so it weakens the team.

    Our second best fullback is also playing on the wing which weakens the team further.

    But he’s our best right winger and has been for some years. So better for our team.

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  • ACT CrusaderA Do not disturb
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    @Frank said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

    Grant Fox -"This goes to the heart of a debate that people think we don't quite understand what our best loose forward combination is or where we sit with six. The answer is we do, but we're not prepared to announce that now."

    "There's three areas which won't surprise anyone," Fox said of where the selectors have the most dialogue. "Loose forwards is one of them, even though we're very clear on where we're going, there's still a lot of discussion because there's a lot of depth there.

    Perhaps that simply means Squire to come back.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12254727

    Won’t surprise me when they name

    6- S. Barrett
    7- M. Todd
    8- K. Read (c)

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    @ACT-Crusader Douglas must be bubbling under.

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    @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

    @Crucial said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

    Only read the last couple of pages but man everyone is obsessed with height.

    Remember that the usual AB plays at line out involve quick thinking and action rather than an extra two inches in height.
    The best thing to do against the likes of England, Ireland and SA is to get to the line quickly and biff it in to the first organised pod while the opposition are getting organised.

    What do we do when it's their throw and Big Pieter is waving his arms saying "throw it to me - I'm being marked by Benny Hill's sidekick"! 🙂

    I'm happy to be corrected but, on a defensive lineout, you'd only really ever have two jumpers - usually one at the front and one patrolling the middle-to-back. In that scenario, it's very unlikely you'd be hoisting up your fourth jumper (especially if he is a short-arse). So, I don't see the 6's height being an issue on D, except maybe as a lifter.

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  • Chester DrawsC Online
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    @junior I agree.

    We took a couple of early opposition line-outs in the last match. Neither were by matching the jumper. Instead we got a man in front at the right time.

    Taking opposition throws is very rarely about being taller.

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  • Chris B.C Online
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    Yes - you've got to get a man in front. But, that guy has to be tall and fast enough to be competitive.

    Last weekend's game saw us get some soft wins at the front from Frizell - no-one up against him.

    Contrast that with what we saw at the end of the Argentina game - Liam Coltman being singled out for wonky lineout throwing - but, who were his targets?

    Retallick (good), Hemopo, Jacobson, Savea, Cane.

    The Argies took us down!

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    @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

    Yes - you've got to get a man in front. But, that guy has to be tall and fast enough to be competitive.

    Last weekend's game saw us get some soft wins at the front from Frizell - no-one up against him.

    Contrast that with what we saw at the end of the Argentina game - Liam Coltman being singled out for wonky lineout throwing - but, who were his targets?

    Retallick (good), Hemopo, Jacobson, Savea, Cane.

    The Argies took us down!

    So Coltman couldn’t throw straight because the back rowers were a few cm too short? Hmm not sure i buy that.

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  • Chris B.C Online
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    @pukunui He didn't have any that weren't straight, did he? They were just "a bit short" and picked off by the Argies.

    Same thing used to happen when we had a loose trio of Jerry, Richie and Rodders. Our hookers just couldn't throw....

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @Frank said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

    @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

    At the presser yesterday Hansen was asked again about Read at 6. He just smiled and said they had a plan for the no.6 jersey while not giving anything away. Cryptic.

    Link ??

    No. Hansen

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