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<p>Yeah but we havent had the opportunity to see the others have an ad agency make-over so the on paper comparison is the only fair one</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Winger" data-cid="513812" data-time="1441535009"><p>Here's another recent flag :good1:<br>
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This works as well the red peak flag. The black fern could still be used for sports events<br>
<br><img src="http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4821426-3x4-700x933.jpg" alt="4821426-3x4-700x933.jpg"></p></blockquote>I wonder how SA arrived at their design? It is a total departure from the old, a bold statement. It didn't take long to become iconic either -
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<p>So how do they have a better idea of what NZers want though? What if the best graphic designer in NZ was a German, or French, or American?<br>
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<p>From memory, when Hunterwasser designed his flag back in the early 1980s, he (an Austrian) was careful to offer it merely as a suggestion, he didn't expect his flag to be flown, he merely wanted to inject an idea into mainstream Kiwi thought that, hey, you really should identify yourself with a signature flag, and was careful to suggest it should be designed by a Kiwi. I would prefer the design not get outsourced, it should be home-grown. </p> -
<p>I like the red peak, yet it looks more like a corporate trail marker or a boy-scout banner (someone else mentioned road marker) than it does an emblematic national flag. What makes it work is that it has perfect triangles and the composition (weight) is balanced. It doesn't need to be modified. But I can't say I love it.</p>
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<p>This looks great</p>
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<p><img src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COPMZLGUEAAkkV6.jpg" alt="COPMZLGUEAAkkV6.jpg"></p>
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<p>Actual designers or graphic artists</p>
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<p>Rather than ex ABs etc. Like AB coaches have actual rugby coaching experience rather than graphical design experience</p>
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<p>Actual designers? Are we not we all designers? What qualification do you require to make you a designer? I could start a design business tomorrow. I did a graphic design paper at Uni.. does that make me a graphics designer? I hope not, because that course was a complete joke, a 3rd year paper that wanked on about inane bullshit and then gave A's out like candy.</p> -
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<p>This looks great</p>
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<p>I dont like it.</p> -
<p><img src="http://www.patchprint.co.nz/uploaded_images/NZ-Made-logo-716836.jpg" alt="NZ-Made-logo-716836.jpg"></p>
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<p>I like the red peak, yet it looks more like a corporate trail marker or a boy-scout banner (someone else mentioned road marker) than it does an emblematic national flag. What makes it work is that it has perfect triangles and the composition (weight) is balanced. It doesn't need to be modified. But I can't say I love it.</p>
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<p>I don't think it will be loved straight off. But its been pointed out earlier that the Canadian flag by example was not universally liked, in fact there were many that hated it. Yet it is iconic now, and loved</p> -
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This looks great<br><br><img src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COPMZLGUEAAkkV6.jpg" alt="COPMZLGUEAAkkV6.jpg"></p></blockquote>
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<p>So no one wants anything that looks like it may be a 'logo'. Fair enough, that just leaves traditional style bands of colours and I have the perfect solution...</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.qualmark.co.nz/'>http://www.qualmark.co.nz/</a></p>
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<p>Yes, if NZ was the name of a company that makes mountaineering equipment.</p>
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<p>Beats NZ looking like a company that makes plastic plates ;)</p>
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<p>Had you ever seen those plastic plates before? Or is it just because it has been plastered all over social media? </p>
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<p>It just highlights how shit the design is. "Oh look I stuck a silver fern and the southern cross together. Job done!".</p>
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<p>Edit - and that design makes up <strong>two</strong> of our final four. And people wonder why there is so much opposition?!</p>
