Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes
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@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
So we down grade our 12 because none of our 10s can run the game?
I have every sympathy with the vibe, but assuming we take four midfielders, I personally will feel a lot better if we take RC as our 'thinking' second five. We all know he doesn't have the physical attributes of an SBW or a Laumape, but there's room for one of them, so we have different clubs in the bag.
But then I still believe we blew it in Cardiff by not having Mauger in the 23!!!
Fuck SBW and Laumape, ABW is the best 12 in NZ
He's a lock for RWC, and, yes, probably best all round 12. That said, Hags crunched him effectively. Not bad at 13 either!
ALB was sent into the witness protection program in Buenos Aires
Jaguares made him disappear last weekHe had 11 runs for 16 metres!!!
Beyond winning a turnover in his own 22 ALB was nowhere to be seen
Still ALB Crotty & Goodhue are locks to be in RWC squad
Laumape will be Crotty of 2015 RWC
Odd man out but he'll likely be 1st choice #12 from 2020 onwards
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@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
So we down grade our 12 because none of our 10s can run the game?
I have every sympathy with the vibe, but assuming we take four midfielders, I personally will feel a lot better if we take RC as our 'thinking' second five. We all know he doesn't have the physical attributes of an SBW or a Laumape, but there's room for one of them, so we have different clubs in the bag.
But then I still believe we blew it in Cardiff by not having Mauger in the 23!!!
And that's wrong about Mauger too when you look at how Luke played
In the first half. AM could have been on bench.
Two 12s in the 23? Thank fuck you're not a selector
I think we can ALL agree on that!
But Mauger on bench for Evans would have left 10 covered by Luke/AM and Mils able to move to 15 if Panadol off.
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@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
So we down grade our 12 because none of our 10s can run the game?
I have every sympathy with the vibe, but assuming we take four midfielders, I personally will feel a lot better if we take RC as our 'thinking' second five. We all know he doesn't have the physical attributes of an SBW or a Laumape, but there's room for one of them, so we have different clubs in the bag.
But then I still believe we blew it in Cardiff by not having Mauger in the 23!!!
And that's wrong about Mauger too when you look at how Luke played
In the first half. AM could have been on bench.
Two 12s in the 23? Thank fuck you're not a selector
I think we can ALL agree on that!
But Mauger on bench for Evans would have left 10 covered by Luke/AM and Mils able to move to 15 if Panadol off.
Were you even watching rugby in 2007? Not only was Evans nearly the form 10 of the side, he was good as anyone in the comp. He was a lock for the side.
Selection didn't really lose us that game.
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@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
So we down grade our 12 because none of our 10s can run the game?
I have every sympathy with the vibe, but assuming we take four midfielders, I personally will feel a lot better if we take RC as our 'thinking' second five. We all know he doesn't have the physical attributes of an SBW or a Laumape, but there's room for one of them, so we have different clubs in the bag.
But then I still believe we blew it in Cardiff by not having Mauger in the 23!!!
And that's wrong about Mauger too when you look at how Luke played
In the first half. AM could have been on bench.
Two 12s in the 23? Thank fuck you're not a selector
I think we can ALL agree on that!
But Mauger on bench for Evans would have left 10 covered by Luke/AM and Mils able to move to 15 if Panadol off.
Were you even watching rugby in 2007? Not only was Evans nearly the form 10 of the side, he was good as anyone in the comp. He was a lock for the side.
Selection didn't really lose us that game.
At Cardiff, I was in my 40th year of WATCHING.
We can both agree that selection wasnt't the ONLY thing which lost us that game.
Evans was in sterling form. His injury just after he came on was a big factor.
And we were only one score away from the French completely imploding at the end of the first. In fact, I even made the mistake of feeling sorry for them.
But quite aside from Mils at 13, to end up with Byron and Luke running things at crunch time was just asking for trouble. Ice wasn't going to add nous at that point.
I agonised a lot over the loss, and was fing ropable when I got back, watched video and saw missed forward pass by JK.
Then analysed to death on way back to London.
I'm afraid I still believe that if AM had been on field in last 15 we'd have won that match.
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@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@pakman which doesn't answer who you drop or how it changes things. Hindsight is beautiful.
Realise you're baiting, but I'll bite.
You're forcing me to think back. I think, contary to earlier in the thread, I alighted on AM instead of Ice in 23. Thought was that Luke (yellow card was a turning point) could cover 13, and if outside back injured Mils to move out.
As it turned out the net result, all things being equal, that when Luke moved to 10, AM would have been 12. Cue droppie.
Hart seemed too swayed by athleticism, and AM passed over.
The relevant point to this thread is that you always want in your 23 one midfielder with nous, and for this world cup RC or ALB need to be there in all the big games.
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@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@pakman which doesn't answer who you drop or how it changes things. Hindsight is beautiful.
Realise you're baiting, but I'll bite.
You're forcing me to think back. I think, contary to earlier in the thread, I alighted on AM instead of Ice in 23. Thought was that Luke (yellow card was a turning point) could cover 13, and if outside back injured Mils to move out.
As it turned out the net result, all things being equal, that when Luke moved to 10, AM would have been 12. Cue droppie.
Hart seemed too swayed by athleticism, and AM passed over.
The relevant point to this thread is that you always want in your 23 one midfielder with nous, and for this world cup RC or ALB need to be there in all the big games.
Hart?
I assume you mean athleticism for the bench from Henry?So basically what you're saying is that Mauger was the only player who would have overruled the other senior ABs and changed the plan to go for a droppy?
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@raznomore said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
If youre a canes fan, warriors fan and black caps fan this weekend sucked. Spoiler alert: my weekend sucked.
Don't forget us Chiefs fans - we weren't even playing, also, I sat down to watch the Canes v Crusaders match on Friday and the game wasn't on, then I missed the start of the movie I was going to today because I was in the foyer watching those retard Warriors lose in extra time.
Spoiler alert: my weekend sucked too. -
@Nepia said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@pakman which doesn't answer who you drop or how it changes things. Hindsight is beautiful.
Realise you're baiting, but I'll bite.
You're forcing me to think back. I think, contary to earlier in the thread, I alighted on AM instead of Ice in 23. Thought was that Luke (yellow card was a turning point) could cover 13, and if outside back injured Mils to move out.
As it turned out the net result, all things being equal, that when Luke moved to 10, AM would have been 12. Cue droppie.
Hart seemed too swayed by athleticism, and AM passed over.
The relevant point to this thread is that you always want in your 23 one midfielder with nous, and for this world cup RC or ALB need to be there in all the big games.
Hart?
I assume you mean athleticism for the bench from Henry?So basically what you're saying is that Mauger was the only player who would have overruled the other senior ABs and changed the plan to go for a droppy?
Sorry, still haven't got over Cully at 13!
Overruled no, but word in shell like of Ritchie, yes.
But I'd of course wanted him on a bit before that ideally.
Water under the bridge now.
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@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
Congratulations on the dumbest argument on the sports forum in some time.
The distinction is very important
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@mariner4life still scrolling to find the end to it.
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@mariner4life I agree but they keeping going back to Crotty and SBW. I would like to see him given the 12 for the rugby championship.
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@Chris said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@canefan yeah I should have explained it abit better slip of the finger the 2 kicks I admitted that
But my point being BB kick was easier from the left side than RM’s 2 from the right but some people couldn’t get their head around it or just don’t understand goal kickingOh fuck off. You said they were easy kicks, that he missed two easy kicks. It's as simple as that. It's got nothing to do with "some people" not understanding goal kicking. It's got to do with what you actually said.
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@raznomore said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
If youre a canes fan, warriors fan and black caps fan this weekend sucked. Spoiler alert: my weekend sucked.
Is there still such a thing ? well I never......
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@SammyC said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
Agree with the comments on Crotty from @pakman we looked so disorganised when he went off.
serious question, what does that say about the 10?
