Black Caps v India
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@Gunner said in Black Caps v India:
I’m watching this on replay and have just seen the fucking shambles of a decision on the Mitchell dismissal.
I’m in disbelief how an umpire can misinterpret the technology so bloody badly.
It’s a bloody farce.What is the point in having hotspot if you’re not going to take any notice of it?
That useless prick they call an umpire must be the only one on the planet that thought that was out.
I dunno - I don't think it was all that clear that the ball hit the bat was it? That very light mark could just as easily have been from contact with the pad. The way the ball looked to deviate it certainly seemed so on the front on first viewing, but maybe that was just a trick of the camera? There was not even a glimmer on snicko.
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I’m obviously still behind, but catching up.
That innings was bloody awful by the Caps, but India’s bowling, how good?
Can anyone tell me why bloody Santner get to bat ahead of Kuggelijn and even Southee with only 5 overs to go?
He looks so bloody awkward and looks like he’s struggling just to pick up the singles.We haven’t got anywhere near enough runs. India will chase this down in a canter.
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@Gunner said in Black Caps v India:
I’m obviously still behind, but catching up.
That innings was bloody awful by the Caps, but India’s bowling, how good?
Can anyone tell me why bloody Santner get to bat ahead of Kuggelijn and even Southee with only 5 overs to go?
He looks so bloody awkward and looks like he’s struggling just to pick up the singles.We haven’t got anywhere near enough runs. India will chase this down in a canter.
Pressure from Gilette?
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@Virgil said in Black Caps v India:
@Mokey said in Black Caps v India:
I don't understand why Santner comes in ahead of Scott K. I really don't.
Less rapey?
I'm going to hell for laughing as much as I did at this post.
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I'm having a retrospective whinge about the Daryl Mitchell LBW decision.
I turned tele on milliseconds after he was given out on field, and he had said to Kane that he hit and asked if he should refer.
Cool.
Very first replay it was sooooo obvious he hit it I thought "oh good, not out".
Then I hear hear dufus in the box saying " no bat".
Say the fuck what? You fucking idiot.
Then the rock and roll in very slomo was indecisive, but if they replayed the full replay he'd have seen the nick.
Second, hot spot confirmed on both the bat and the ball.
I will admit that there may have been a hotspot on the bat prior to the ball passing, possibly from brushing the pad . However hotspot was pretty definitive on both bat and ball from both sides.
Sure snicko showed nothing. But the case for snicko being any sort of evidence is negated by Nigel "it could have come from anywhere, but I'm a complete moron" Llllllong.
Upshot is the DRS failed miserably due to human error. Mitchell and NZ was fucked over by incompetence.
Which brings me to my point.
It was pretty obvious everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY, on the field knew Mitchell was not out.
And it certainly appeared that Sharma said as much to Mitchell who then asked Sharma to speak to the umpires, which he started to do. At which point Dhoni intervened and seemed to persuade him not to.
At this point I have lost any potential respect for Sharma who if he had any, ANY, integrity whatsoever he'd have called Mitchell back because he knew he was not out, but obviously has no mana or authority given he could be so overidden by his granddad MS.
And as for Dhoni? Despite his demi-god status in India is obviously an unethical underhanded selfish twunt. Hope you make the final of the world cup and get given out to a shocker with 2 runs left on the last ball with no reviews left.
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@Bones said in Black Caps v India:
@booboo how do you know it was obvious to everybody on the field? What's the protocol around disobeying the umpire?
Don't do it is generally a good rule of thumb in all sports.
Well yeah that's what I thought - Cricket is pretty harsh on dissent too isn't it? Mitchell sticking around on the field and gasping at the ump seemed bad to me.
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@Bones said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@Bones said in Black Caps v India:
@booboo how do you know it was obvious to everybody on the field? What's the protocol around disobeying the umpire?
Don't do it is generally a good rule of thumb in all sports.
Well yeah that's what I thought - Cricket is pretty harsh on dissent too isn't it? Mitchell sticking around on the field and gasping at the ump seemed bad to me.
Yep. He could be in danger of losing some of his match fee.
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@Bones said in Black Caps v India:
@booboo how do you know it was obvious to everybody on the field? What's the protocol around disobeying the umpire?
Different issue.
He was given out by the process and had to go.
I expect him and Kane to be fined.
But those unethical Indian fluffybunnies knew he wasn't out.
If they had any thread of decency they would have called him back.
What got me was Sharma obviously said something to Mitchell, who then said "tell the umpires". Gutless prick bailed and then Dhoni pulled him away.
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@booboo said in Black Caps v India:
@Bones said in Black Caps v India:
@booboo how do you know it was obvious to everybody on the field? What's the protocol around disobeying the umpire?
Different issue.
He was given out by the process and had to go.
I expect him and Kane to be fined.
But those unethical Indian fluffybunnies knew he wasn't out.
If they had any thread of decency they would have called him back.
What got me was Sharma obviously said something to Mitchell, who then said "tell the umpires". Gutless prick bailed and then Dhoni pulled him away.
What the? How did you see/hear all this? I certainly couldn't on my coverage.
It strikes me as a bit disingenuous to moan about the ethics of the Indian team when you don't know who knew/heard/saw/said what and Mitchell won't even leave the field when he's been given out.
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@booboo said in Black Caps v India:
I'm having a retrospective whinge about the Daryl Mitchell LBW decision.
I turned tele on milliseconds after he was given out on field, and he had said to Kane that he hit and asked if he should refer.
Cool.
Very first replay it was sooooo obvious he hit it I thought "oh good, not out".
Then I hear hear dufus in the box saying " no bat".
Say the fuck what? You fucking idiot.
Then the rock and roll in very slomo was indecisive, but if they replayed the full replay he'd have seen the nick.
Second, hot spot confirmed on both the bat and the ball.
I will admit that there may have been a hotspot on the bat prior to the ball passing, possibly from brushing the pad . However hotspot was pretty definitive on both bat and ball from both sides.
Sure snicko showed nothing. But the case for snicko being any sort of evidence is negated by Nigel "it could have come from anywhere, but I'm a complete moron" Llllllong.
Upshot is the DRS failed miserably due to human error. Mitchell and NZ was fucked over by incompetence.
Which brings me to my point.
It was pretty obvious everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY, on the field knew Mitchell was not out.
And it certainly appeared that Sharma said as much to Mitchell who then asked Sharma to speak to the umpires, which he started to do. At which point Dhoni intervened and seemed to persuade him not to.
At this point I have lost any potential respect for Sharma who if he had any, ANY, integrity whatsoever he'd have called Mitchell back because he knew he was not out, but obviously has no mana or authority given he could be so overidden by his granddad MS.
And as for Dhoni? Despite his demi-god status in India is obviously an unethical underhanded selfish twunt. Hope you make the final of the world cup and get given out to a shocker with 2 runs left on the last ball with no reviews left.
I wish there were more guys playing like Adam Gilchrist.
Possibly my all time favourite Aussie cricketer overall, fucken legend and I do remember admiring his stance on walking. Some fucken good humour in this vid too.
What Australian Cricket did to deserve going from him to Brad Haddin is anyone's guess.
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Drunken match report: the beer and food was great, and fucking awesome atmosphere watching India play at home, the crowd was mental.
Umpire fucked the DRS decision. Snicko is not accurate enough - that only didn't show up because of a missing frame. Hotspot was obvious, as was the live replay. Idiot.
CdG and Rosco got us back in the game, and then back out of it in the final 5 overs when they couldn't find the boundary. Amazing death bowling so credit to India, that was the winning of the game right there.
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@Bones said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@Bones said in Black Caps v India:
@booboo how do you know it was obvious to everybody on the field? What's the protocol around disobeying the umpire?
Don't do it is generally a good rule of thumb in all sports.
Well yeah that's what I thought - Cricket is pretty harsh on dissent too isn't it? Mitchell sticking around on the field and gasping at the ump seemed bad to me.
It looked bad, but put in their situation with no idea what was happening outside of what they saw on the big screen I think the initial response was pretty reasonable. Once the umpires started conferring he is well within his rights to hang around IMO.
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@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
Drunken match report: the beer and food was great, and fucking awesome atmosphere watching India play at home, the crowd was mental.
Umpire fucked the DRS decision. Snicko is not accurate enough - that only didn't show up because of a missing frame. Hotspot was obvious, as was the live replay. Idiot.
CdG and Rosco got us back in the game, and then back out of it in the final 5 overs when they couldn't find the boundary. Amazing death bowling so credit to India, that was the winning of the game right there.
That's my match report right there.
On the DRS issue -- the Indians saw the hot spot and took up playing positions assuming it was not out. They knew it was not out - but personally I've no issue with not recalilng him. Pro sports people are ruthless ... remember we ran out Murali a few years ago when he wandered down the pitch to congratulate his partner.
Really good night out, great crowd both ways - Indians outnumbered, but very vocal
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@Bones said in Black Caps v India:
@booboo said in Black Caps v India:
@Bones said in Black Caps v India:
@booboo how do you know it was obvious to everybody on the field? What's the protocol around disobeying the umpire?
Different issue.
He was given out by the process and had to go.
I expect him and Kane to be fined.
But those unethical Indian fluffybunnies knew he wasn't out.
If they had any thread of decency they would have called him back.
What got me was Sharma obviously said something to Mitchell, who then said "tell the umpires". Gutless prick bailed and then Dhoni pulled him away.
What the? How did you see/hear all this? I certainly couldn't on my coverage.
It strikes me as a bit disingenuous to moan about the ethics of the Indian team when you don't know who knew/heard/saw/said what and Mitchell won't even leave the field when he's been given out.
It was pretty obvious that after Sharma and Mitchell shared a word together Mitchell gestured toward the umpires, Sharma moved in that direction, then Dhoni intervened.
Sure 2 plus 2 may not equal 5 ... and we all know the effect of bias on perception, but 2 plus 2 is most of 5 (that made sense in my head ...).
As for Mitchell, he was being supported by his Captain who was also protesting. I suspect he'll be fined, but it really was a miscarriage of justice.
