Has Hansen gone stale?
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@rotated said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
There also was an inevitable feeling that a penalty would come at some point.
That was the injustice of it. We should have had several - the most obvious one right in front of me - and Barnes - on French try line. French player on the ground using hands in a ruck as well as the back line all off side. It was pretty fucked.
I'm going to read @booboo Grogan's post again, otherwise I will have anger issues (again).
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I took 2007 harder than 2003 ,
Because I had more belief in the team , actually thought they would win ,
2003 I suspected England might win it . hate to say it , but ireland are reminding me of them ,
But 2007 I thought it was ours , didnt make it past the quarters , who saw that coming .
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@kiwiinmelb said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
I took 2007 harder than 2003 ,
Because I had more belief in the team , actually thought they would win ,
2003 I suspected England might win it . hate to say it , but ireland are reminding me of them ,
But 2007 I thought it was ours , didnt make it past the quarters , who saw that coming .
2003 I was sure they'd make the final and probably lose to England.
2007 I thought was a lay down misere.
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@kiwiinmelb Yeah I had a funny feeling going into the semi in 2003 that an upset was on as everyone was going in very overconfident with Australia looking poor for large parts of that year. England were always gonna win it anyway let be honest.
I thought in 07 that we were gonna do it in a canter and that our drought would be over. Everyone was expecting an Australia v All Blacks semi but which never happened haha.
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@chris-b said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@booboo Awesome! Still awesome!
Wish I could claim credit.
I copied and emailed to a few bods when he posted it. So I had it in my email archives (thought I had it elsewhere too but couldn'tfind it, have now saved a MS Word version too).
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2003 I thought we'd make the final but the 13 v 15 English that beat us meant it we were always up against it with one of the better, if not boring, English sides.
2007 was a cake walk...stats show we shoulda beat France by 20+, scoreboard and Barnes gave the big old
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Meanwhile the national broadcaster over here had this to say:
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New Zealand blames Australia for All Blacks' struggles ahead of Rugby World CupIt has never taken much for New Zealand to ridicule the Wallabies but Australia's national rugby union team is now being blamed for the All Blacks' stuttering displays less than a year out from the World Cup.
Key points:
The All Blacks recorded three convincing wins over the Wallabies this year
The Wallabies have won only four of 12 Tests so far in 2018
The All Blacks' loss to Ireland has been described as a "failure" and a "disaster" in New Zealand
New Zealand's rugby community is delving into a period of deep introspection in the wake of the All Blacks' 16-9 defeat to Irealand in Dublin last Sunday (AEDT), a result which followed a narrow escape the previous weekend against England.The All Blacks had snuck home 16-15 at Twickenham, but the finger of blame for their recent performances has been squarely pointed at the Wallabies because of their struggles on the international stage.
The Wallabies have won only four of 12 Tests so far in 2018, a return that includes three comprehensive defeats to the All Blacks, who have claimed the last two World Cups.
A 38-13 triumph in Sydney was followed by a 40-12 scoreline in Auckland during the Rugby Championship, before the All Blacks added a 37-20 victory over the Wallabies in the third Bledisloe Cup encounter in Yokohama last month.
The dominance over Australia has been apparent in Super Rugby as well, as illustrated by the 40-match winning streak New Zealand teams enjoyed against their trans- Ta$man opponents until earlier this year.
New Zealand considers the Wallabies, who it plays more regularly than any other international team, as too weak to adequately prepare for the likes of Ireland, England and South Africa, who it lost to 36-34 in Wellington during the Rugby Championship.
All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has regularly offered faint praise to the Wallabies but he now believes they are hindering his side in the build-up to their World Cup defence in Japan next year.
"There is definitely something missing because they [Wallabies] are not quite right and are not performing to the level they can," Hansen said in Rome ahead of the All Blacks' Test against Italy this weekend.
New Zealand's rugby media has also not held back from laying the boot into the Michael Cheika-coached Wallabies, who sit at a lowly sixth on World Rugby's official rankings.
Amid headlines across the Ta$man that referred to the All Blacks' "failure" and "disaster" in Dublin, prominent journalist Gregor Paul took aim at the performances of the Wallabies in the Bledisloe Cup, which New Zealand has held since 2003.
"It's starting to feel like New Zealand have been living in a false economy and the weakest currency is the Bledisloe Cup," Paul wrote this week in the New Zealand Herald.
Hansen clearly does not consider the Wallabies a threat at the World Cup, highlighting the Northern Hemisphere powerhouses and the Springboks as the teams to watch out for in Japan.
"The more we play teams like South Africa, Ireland and England, France, which we have done this year, it is good for us," Hansen said.
"We have had a bit of a preview so to speak."
The Wallabies, meanwhile, face an uphill battle to beat England at Twickenham on Sunday (AEDT), a team they have beaten in their past five matches.
A 26-7 win over Italy in Padova last weekend has done little to raise the confidence of the Wallabies, who have been hit by a gastro bug in the lead-up to the England Test.
-- Note: No editor or journalist has had the courage to put their name to this.
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@antipodean said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
New Zealand's rugby media has also not held back from laying the boot into the Michael Cheika-coached Wallabies,
since when, oh thats right, since he started coaching the Wallabies, kinda comes with the territory doesnt it!
I dont think they have upped thier criticism of him recently, if anything he is almost irrelevant, his coaching box tirades barely garner a mention anymore.
Paul has written 1 decent article in the past half dozen or so he has written.
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@rancid-schnitzel Our discipline was poor that night and was the difference in the game. McCaw’s inexperience showed in that game with him not reading the game or ref well.
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@act-crusader said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@rancid-schnitzel Our discipline was poor that night and was the difference in the game. McCaw’s inexperience showed in that game with him not reading the game or ref well.
It was more than discipline. They were simply better that night.
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@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@chris-b said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life He wouldn't have if Benny had been taking the kicks!
Carlos looked alright nailing that one from the sideline after he scored that ripper try for the Blues v your mob. Maybe a little faith aye Agent Robbie?
Let's also not forget his kicking won us back the Bledisloe earlier that year. In any event, Carlos was an exceptionally better kicker than the guy we currently trust to slot them over.
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@junior said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@chris-b said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life He wouldn't have if Benny had been taking the kicks!
Carlos looked alright nailing that one from the sideline after he scored that ripper try for the Blues v your mob. Maybe a little faith aye Agent Robbie?
Let's also not forget his kicking won us back the Bledisloe earlier that year. In any event, Carlos was an exceptionally better kicker than the guy we currently trust to slot them over.
Really? Anything to back that up?
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@bones said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@junior said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@chris-b said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life He wouldn't have if Benny had been taking the kicks!
Carlos looked alright nailing that one from the sideline after he scored that ripper try for the Blues v your mob. Maybe a little faith aye Agent Robbie?
Let's also not forget his kicking won us back the Bledisloe earlier that year. In any event, Carlos was an exceptionally better kicker than the guy we currently trust to slot them over.
Really? Anything to back that up?
Which part?
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@act-crusader said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@rancid-schnitzel Our discipline was poor that night and was the difference in the game. McCaw’s inexperience showed in that game with him not reading the game or ref well.
It was more than discipline. They were simply better that night.
Flatley kicked 5 penalties. We created a number of opportunities to score I thought. But we ran out of steam and our bench didn’t add what was needed.
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@junior said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@chris-b said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life He wouldn't have if Benny had been taking the kicks!
Carlos looked alright nailing that one from the sideline after he scored that ripper try for the Blues v your mob. Maybe a little faith aye Agent Robbie?
Let's also not forget his kicking won us back the Bledisloe earlier that year. In any event, Carlos was an exceptionally better kicker than the guy we currently trust to slot them over.
His kicking won us back the Bledisloe? Say what? He might have been the kicker but I think it's a bit of a stretch to claim it was his kicking that won it for us. We scored 2 tries to 1.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@junior said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@chris-b said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life He wouldn't have if Benny had been taking the kicks!
Carlos looked alright nailing that one from the sideline after he scored that ripper try for the Blues v your mob. Maybe a little faith aye Agent Robbie?
Let's also not forget his kicking won us back the Bledisloe earlier that year. In any event, Carlos was an exceptionally better kicker than the guy we currently trust to slot them over.
His kicking won us back the Bledisloe? Say what? He might have been the kicker but I think it's a bit of a stretch to claim it was his kicking that won it for us. We scored 2 tries to 1.
Both of which he had a significant hand in. My point stands - he nailed some difficult kicks under pressure in the second half which proved to be part of the difference between the two teams.
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@junior said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@junior said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@chris-b said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life He wouldn't have if Benny had been taking the kicks!
Carlos looked alright nailing that one from the sideline after he scored that ripper try for the Blues v your mob. Maybe a little faith aye Agent Robbie?
Let's also not forget his kicking won us back the Bledisloe earlier that year. In any event, Carlos was an exceptionally better kicker than the guy we currently trust to slot them over.
His kicking won us back the Bledisloe? Say what? He might have been the kicker but I think it's a bit of a stretch to claim it was his kicking that won it for us. We scored 2 tries to 1.
Both of which he had a significant hand in. My point stands - he nailed some difficult kicks under pressure in the second half which proved to be part of the difference between the two teams.
Didn't he miss like 3 kicks in the first half alone?
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Hmmm. Hansen and co love the "don't panic, we've got this" line at the moment.
Hope we don't have to sit through it at the RWC 2019...
