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    Steven Harris
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    @donsteppa was looking at my TAB account last night when NZ were paying $15 with the Pakis needing 27 runs and 6 wkts in hand..thought about it,and thought nah..that ain’t gonna happen..
    Woke up this morning..WTF..!

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    @derm-mccrum said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    Ok. My head is better now.
    Good game at the weekend - don’t know if anyone saw it...

    What game?

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    @donsteppa said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @act-crusader said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @derm-mccrum said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    Ok. My head is better now.
    Good game at the weekend - don’t know if anyone saw it...

    Nup. Whatever may or may not have happened, never happened.

    It was a great result for the Black Caps.

    November is cricket season!

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    @mariner4life This is a very good point. But it also wouldn't hurt if you picked some backs who could bend the line in heavy traffic.

    Everyone talks about how chips and grubbers are a way to unlock a rush defence. And sure they are. But crawl through this thread and count the moaning on all the kicks. They're bloody hard to execute well, and once you give players a licence to do them they become infectious. So you lose promising attacking positions because instead of recycling, some wing or loosie has grubbered the ball away.

    A much better answer to a rush defence is to pass early to a big, fast, nimble meathead while making the defence second guess itself. But to do that, you need to select some big, fast, nimble meatheads. And I for one hope that your selectors continue to ignore the obvious solution to your current backline ineffectiveness.

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    Smuts
    replied to Rancid Schnitzel on last edited by
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    @rancid-schnitzel Both me and Willie Le Roux are in favour of this selection.

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    Things that annoy me about half-backs.

    • Now the defensive line has to stay onside until the ball is lifted off the ground, the half-back is setting himself to pass with his hands on the ball, sort of pauses after the initial movement, line moves up offside, then he throws the pass and catches them offside. Little shit.

    • Half back has a perfectly stable scrum in front of him but doesn't put the ball in, scrum starts to become unstable as defensive side get edgy so he pauses some more, ref gives him a free kick or penalty for early shove. Little shit.

    • Ball sitting at the back of the ruck. Ref calls, "still in" as there is one boot behind the ball. Half-back pauses, looks around. Ref shouts "use it". half-back pauses some more, puts his hand on the ball, pauses. Defensive side get edgy waiting to charge the box kick. Half-back pauses and looks around again. Defender topples offside, kick, penalty. Little shit.

    In summary, stop trying to protect the little shits by tweaking the laws as they will just take advantage.

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    @kiwipie yeah it was pretty shit in the weekend watching guts roll the ball with their hands and even picking it up to position it better and guys being told to stay back. Then same thing happens and it's free for all. This needs to be fixed.

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    @derm-mccrum said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    Ok. My head is better now.
    Good game at the weekend - don’t know if anyone saw it...

    It was a struggle to see much actually, with that pea-souper mist of dry powder blocking my view of the telly.

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    @smuts said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @rancid-schnitzel Both me and Willie Le Roux are in favour of this selection.

    Be careful what you wish for.

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    @mn5 looking at the simple logic of it all, I'm not foxing.

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    @smuts said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @mariner4life This is a very good point. But it also wouldn't hurt if you picked some backs who could bend the line in heavy traffic.

    Everyone talks about how chips and grubbers are a way to unlock a rush defence. And sure they are. But crawl through this thread and count the moaning on all the kicks. They're bloody hard to execute well, and once you give players a licence to do them they become infectious. So you lose promising attacking positions because instead of recycling, some wing or loosie has grubbered the ball away.

    A much better answer to a rush defence is to pass early to a big, fast, nimble meathead while making the defence second guess itself. But to do that, you need to select some big, fast, nimble meatheads. And I for one hope that your selectors continue to ignore the obvious solution to your current backline ineffectiveness.

    Not sure I completely agree with that. Even the biggest munters will struggle if they are flat footed against a rush defense.

    For me, the key to unlocking a rush defense is the forwards manning the fuck up and getting over the gain line in close. Much harder to rush up in a line if you keep having to backpedal, especially if we can get some quick ruck ball.

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    @no-quarter said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @smuts said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @mariner4life This is a very good point. But it also wouldn't hurt if you picked some backs who could bend the line in heavy traffic.

    Everyone talks about how chips and grubbers are a way to unlock a rush defence. And sure they are. But crawl through this thread and count the moaning on all the kicks. They're bloody hard to execute well, and once you give players a licence to do them they become infectious. So you lose promising attacking positions because instead of recycling, some wing or loosie has grubbered the ball away.

    A much better answer to a rush defence is to pass early to a big, fast, nimble meathead while making the defence second guess itself. But to do that, you need to select some big, fast, nimble meatheads. And I for one hope that your selectors continue to ignore the obvious solution to your current backline ineffectiveness.

    Not sure I completely agree with that. Even the biggest munters will struggle if they are flat footed against a rush defense.

    For me, the key to unlocking a rush defense is the forwards manning the fuck up and getting over the gain line in close. Much harder to rush up in a line if you keep having to backpedal, especially if we can get some quick ruck ball.

    Absolutely. On the odd occasion we actually did that we got fairly easy metres and the Paddies weren't able to get forward to fast. We just couldn't seal the deal

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    That's alright, then: http://www.allblacks.com/News/33471/test-review-provided-optimism-for-all-blacks

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    Derm McCrum
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    @pakman said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    That's alright, then: http://www.allblacks.com/News/33471/test-review-provided-optimism-for-all-blacks

    Phew - we’re not favorites any more. I knew it was all a big mistake.

    I love the smell of burning underdog in the morning....

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    replied to Steven Harris on last edited by akan004
    #1122

    @steven-harris said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @donsteppa was looking at my TAB account last night when NZ were paying $15 with the Pakis needing 27 runs and 6 wkts in hand..thought about it,and thought nah..that ain’t gonna happen..
    Woke up this morning..WTF..!

    I wonder if some of the Pakistani players placed that bet?

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    @akan004 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @steven-harris said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @donsteppa was looking at my TAB account last night when NZ were paying $15 with the Pakis needing 27 runs and 6 wkts in hand..thought about it,and thought nah..that ain’t gonna happen..
    Woke up this morning..WTF..!

    I wonder if some of the Pakistani players placed that bet?

    I had thought of mentioning that but didn't want to detract from a famous victory. It's a shame though that when something away from the normal run of things happens with Pakistan there is always that nagging thought.

    Broad's century is one.

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    Machpants
    wrote on last edited by Duluth
    #1124

    Very interesting powder dry and\or exhaustion analysis

    Analysis: Did the All Blacks ‘bottle it’ and shadow-box against Ireland?

    Analysis: Did the All Blacks ‘bottle it’ and shadow-box against Ireland?

    There are many aspects of this All Blacks performance that just don’t add up on the face of it. The deeper you dive, the more suspect it becomes.

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    Rapido
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    So, was Sam Whitelock sitting on the ground, offside, slapping an Irish pass forward not something we're keeping dry for next year?

    Pleased about that. Small mercies.

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    @rapido said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    So, was Sam Whitelock sitting on the ground, offside, slapping an Irish pass forward not something we're keeping dry for next year?

    Pleased about that. Small mercies.

    You can take the boy out of the Crusaders, but you can't take the Crusader out of the boy?

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/108789355/all-blacks-v-italy-abs-missed-aaron-cruden-in-dublin-says-former-ireland-star-gordon-darcy

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