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    @bovidae said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    Imagine if Meg had a decent pass?

    He's not even the best AB halfback to come out of Canterbury. No, not Bruce Deans but Bachop.

    Remember when Southland almost cloned him and came up with Jimmy Cowan? During the 2011 rwc Alby Mathewson was watching a game from the comfort of his couch and tweeted "someones going to pull a hammy trying to catch Jimmys passes".

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    @jegga said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    During the 2011 rwc Alby Mathewson was watching a game from the comfort of his couch and tweeted "someones going to pull a hammy trying to catch Jimmys passes".

    Harsh coming from Alby

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    @jegga said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @bovidae said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    Imagine if Meg had a decent pass?

    He's not even the best AB halfback to come out of Canterbury. No, not Bruce Deans but Bachop.

    Remember when Southland almost cloned him and came up with Jimmy Cowan? During the 2011 rwc Alby Mathewson was watching a game from the comfort of his couch and tweeted "someones going to pull a hammy trying to catch Jimmys passes".

    Good bants, but Cowan did have a couple of good years between about 2008 and 2010. He did fall off a cliff before 2011 and was very lucky to get a RWC-winners medal. Thank God for Andy Ellis (never thought I'd say that!)

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    @junior said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @jegga said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @bovidae said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    Imagine if Meg had a decent pass?

    He's not even the best AB halfback to come out of Canterbury. No, not Bruce Deans but Bachop.

    Remember when Southland almost cloned him and came up with Jimmy Cowan? During the 2011 rwc Alby Mathewson was watching a game from the comfort of his couch and tweeted "someones going to pull a hammy trying to catch Jimmys passes".

    Good bants, but Cowan did have a couple of good years between about 2008 and 2010. He did fall off a cliff before 2011 and was very lucky to get a RWC-winners medal. Thank God for Andy Ellis (never thought I'd say that!)

    I said almost , they put extra drunken bogan gene in the mix with the improved pass.

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    @jegga said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @siam said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    Hand grenade time....

    Marshall was better than Smith is.

    Eras make it difficult to judge but Marshall was bloody effective and 96 vs boks best series ever by a NZ halfback

    Dare I say it, discuss

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    No, just no.
    no

    Simon Culhane was bloody effective on that series too and held a world points scoring record at one stage. See if you can find anyone who thinks he's better than Carter.

    Straw man

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    @bovidae said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    Imagine if Meg had a decent pass?

    He's not even the best AB halfback to come out of Canterbury. No, not Bruce Deans but Bachop.

    Imagine if Smith didn't wilt in defence

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    @bovidae said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    Imagine if Meg had a decent pass?

    He's not even the best AB halfback to come out of Canterbury. No, not Bruce Deans but Bachop.

    Can't remember Bachop playing 80 odd games.

    But facts don't matter with opinions huh?

    Marshall pass wasn't the liability that Smith's defence is against a decent forward pack. Smith was poor against the books last 2 games, just not up to the physicality.

    Both are great players but Marshall had less limitations, scored more tries (24 - 16), kicked better and never cried on telly 😉

    For sure Smith has a better pass but apart from recency bias, name one other attribute he is distinctly better than Marsh at?

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    @sparky said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @machpants Don't know what Foster hopes to gain from criticising Aki for doing what was best for his career when Foster didn't pick him for higher honours.

    Ermmm... What exactly was the criticism? Being Irish?

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    @siam said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @bovidae said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    Imagine if Meg had a decent pass?

    He's not even the best AB halfback to come out of Canterbury. No, not Bruce Deans but Bachop.

    Can't remember Bachop playing 80 odd games.

    But facts don't matter with opinions huh?

    Marshall pass wasn't the liability that Smith's defence is against a decent forward pack. Smith was poor against the books last 2 games, just not up to the physicality.

    Both are great players but Marshall had less limitations, scored more tries (24 - 16), kicked better and never cried on telly 😉

    For sure Smith has a better pass but apart from recency bias, name one other attribute he is distinctly better than Marsh at?

    Until he started commentating, I couldn't hate Marshy because, during those dark years between 1998 and 2003, he was often the only guy on our team who looked like he wanted to win and was prepared to do something about it.

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    replied to Siam on last edited by taniwharugby
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    @siam having an average passing 9 is like an average throwing 2...we had both during the same period IIRC.

    I thought Marshall was a very good 9, in fact I modelled my game at 9 around his...I got moved to 6 🤣

    I wish he would stick to writing about rugby where he is good and move away from the commentating.

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    @taniwharugby said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    @siam having an average passing 9 is like an average throwing 2...we had both during the same period IIRC.

    I thought Marshall was a very good 9, in fact I modelled my game at 9 around his...I got moved to 6 🤣

    TJP reminds me a bit of Marshy - a good rugby player, with a great rugby brain, but technically deficient (almost critically so).

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    @taniwharugby not it's not. A halfbacks slow pass isn't an automatic turnover. Poor comparison.

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    Anybody conflating Marshalls commentary with his rugby playing ability is a retard

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    @siam poor line out throwing isn't an automatic turnover...it can just be messy as fuck and slow shit down.

    I stand by the comparison and my opinion...didnt you say something earlier about differing opinions?

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    So Siam is clearly Mama Marshall.

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    off the top of my head , I think Marshall was the best wet weather halfback I have seen in Black

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    @siam said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    Anybody conflating Marshalls commentary with his rugby playing ability is a retard

    I'm not sure if anyone is doing that. I'm simply saying that I couldn't hate him because he was a decent rugby player - with a big ticker - but now I can because he's a shit commentator.

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    Attributes: kicking, similar. Pass smith , tackle marsh, tidying up around ruck, marsh, tries scored marsh, speed smith, see (tries scored), anything physical marsh, communication no one on here can know.

    What have I left out?

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    @siam said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    Attributes: kicking, similar. Pass smith , tackle marsh, tidying up around ruck, marsh, tries scored marsh, speed smith, see (tries scored), anything physical marsh, communication no one on here can know.

    What have I left out?

    Winning?

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    @siam said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:

    Attributes: kicking, similar. Pass smith , tackle marsh, tidying up around ruck, marsh, tries scored marsh, speed smith, see (tries scored), anything physical marsh, communication no one on here can know.

    What have I left out?

    Toilet Shenanigans

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