Bledisloe II
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@rancid-schnitzel I really liked the way he remained composed when he got pulled down short of the line. He tried to see if he could reach out, decided he couldn't, then made sure the ball was there for quick recycling. Just another good basic decision and he made it look easy. I suspect other players would have tried harder to get to the line and end up killing the move.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
I think Goodhue is awesome. A few iffy things last night, but he just looks class. Considering his age and lack of experience I think we have alot to look forward to in the future.
I’ll never forget watching Goodhue and Jordie Barrett play 12-13 for a season of club rugby a couple of seasons back, maybe the 2 best players I’ve ever seen at that level.
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@rancid-schnitzel I'd be happy if ALB and Goodhue turns out to be our long-term midfield.
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@crazy-horse said in Bledisloe II:
@rancid-schnitzel I really liked the way he remained composed when he got pulled down short of the line. He tried to see if he could reach out, decided he couldn't, then made sure the ball was there for quick recycling. Just another good basic decision and he made it look easy. I suspect other players would have tried harder to get to the line and end up killing the move.
Yep, that might not seem like a big deal to some but it shows maturity and composure beyond his years. He's just a class act all round.
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@siam said in Bledisloe II:
Shit I hope there's some way Pinetree can watch Brodie play. We've had so many outstanding locks over the years but jesus the shit Brodie does all over the paddock blows my mind
Wayne Barnes makes me think of Stuart Broad, usual pedantry at times but it works and his attention to ruck cleanouts was welcomed
Is Dane HP, BFA lite? That's a compliment
I thought the RM is better than BB banter was bored preselection fern trash talk.
Jesus, just leave Barrett there. He's our number 10 till 2020 at least. Play RM at 10 if injury strikes the incumbent and leave DM with 20 something on his back for all games. SimplesYay Bledisloe!
I think RM should get way more game time than just after a BB injury. He needs the game time to get used to test level rugby and get the confidence. Start him in the Argie game in Nelson, as well as in the away game in Buenos Aires. The games against Japan and Italy. If BB goes down in the RWC, I want RM to have played enough minutes in the 10 jersey.
So giving starts to RM is not about BB not deserving them, but about getting RM the experience he needs to take over when required.
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@stargazer well shit of course he needs gametime and like all 2nd bests he'll get that against weaker opposition, both starting and subbing.
My reference was the hierarchy for RWC.
Or maybe I was advocating a cunning 1976 strategy where the incumbents play every game for 80 minutes till we lose one...
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
You reckon Carter was tearing up defences in the first 30?He had usually plotted three penalties, two of which were pretty tough.
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@rotated said in Bledisloe II:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
You reckon Carter was tearing up defences in the first 30?He had usually plotted three penalties, two of which were pretty tough.
How is that tearing up defences?
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@pukunui I was thinking the same thing regarding BB at 15, it was a pity Cruden didn't hang around and see if he could regain form and fitness, those two in tandem and in form would cut teams to pieces, well TBF BB is cutting the Wallabies to pieces on his own, but it would have been nice.
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@stargazer is a balancing act getting the development right (which includes playing in high intensity games) vs playing the best team without burning them out.
PLenty were critical of the Cartels inability to devlop a good back up for DC in 2011, whereas I thought they had been, was just none were really up to it, and TBF, we ended up coping (just)
RM will get plenty of chances pre2019, as will Dmac, short of a 2011 injury ward striking, they will serve us well
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
@rotated said in Bledisloe II:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
You reckon Carter was tearing up defences in the first 30?He had usually plotted three penalties, two of which were pretty tough.
How is that tearing up defences?
If you can't tear up the defence in the first 30 minutes at least be putting points on the board in other ways.
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given Cane has had alsmot as many head knocks as Crotty, maybe we need to look at leaving him out for a period too?
So that slots Savea firmly in the drivers seat (looked a bit more physical than normal last night too, although against a beaten Wallaby pack) but who is the next 7 off the ranks?
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe II:
given Cane has had alsmot as many head knocks as Crotty, maybe we need to look at leaving him out for a period too?
So that slots Savea firmly in the drivers seat (looked a bit more physical than normal last night too, although against a beaten Wallaby pack) but who is the next 7 off the ranks?
Last year Hunt played for the AB's (vs French xv) and Gibson was called up to train with the squad. Gibson has barely played this year though so Hunt would be most likely
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe II:
given Cane has had alsmot as many head knocks as Crotty, maybe we need to look at leaving him out for a period took?
So that slots Savea firmly in the drivers seat (looked a bit more physical than normal last night too, although against a beaten Wallaby pack) but who is the next 7 off the ranks?
There’s some young tyro from the Crusaders. Todd or something. He might be worth a look.
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@jc he has gone to the land of the Samurai!
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@rotated said in Bledisloe II:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
@rotated said in Bledisloe II:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
You reckon Carter was tearing up defences in the first 30?He had usually plotted three penalties, two of which were pretty tough.
How is that tearing up defences?
If you can't tear up the defence in the first 30 minutes at least be putting points on the board in other ways.
Dude, I was responding to a post of how BB can't breach defences in the early stages of a game.
I will fully agree about the goal kicking but that wasn't being discussed.
Actually, BB's kicking in general play was mostly pants for the Canes this year but was outstanding yesterday. Was great to see.
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe II:
@jc he has gone to the land of the Samurai!
He's back for RWC though isn't he?
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
@rotated said in Bledisloe II:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
@rotated said in Bledisloe II:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
You reckon Carter was tearing up defences in the first 30?He had usually plotted three penalties, two of which were pretty tough.
How is that tearing up defences?
If you can't tear up the defence in the first 30 minutes at least be putting points on the board in other ways.
Dude, I was responding to a post of how BB can't breach defences in the early stages of a game.
I will fully agree about the goal kicking but that wasn't being discussed.
I mistook you point, apologies. While both Carter and Barrett hardly lit up a defence in first half, Carter was far more effective in the grand scheme of things in the first 40 minutes - that was my point. Much of the frustration with Barrett at test level is while waiting for the defence to break down in the second half - he isn't terribly constructive or authoritative in the first.
That said Beauden was effective off the bench in the second half through 2014/5 that I'd probably refuse to name an all time AB XV on principle that Beaudy should be 16 (and SBW 17).
