Bledisloe II
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Not a fan of Naholo.He looked lost a couple of times last night on the left. There was one time in the second half someone was trying to run him into space and the angle Naholo ran was all wrong and the move died as a result.
I thought Goodhue went ok. Apart from looking really awkward at the back when he threw that dodgy pass I thought he did the basics well. That pass he threw forward at the start of the game showed how good this kid is/could be. It was a lovely pass despite it going forward. Worked hard and made good decisions on defense too. I hope he is seen as the number one centre.
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@crazy-horse thing is, the pass travelled forward, but was passed backwards as is allowed under the laws (argh, as also pointed out by Marshall
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I think Goodhue is awesome. A few iffy things last night, but he just looks class. Considering his age and lack of experience I think we have alot to look forward to in the future.
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Always good to lock the big cup up for another year.
BBBR and BB have to be the best players in the world by some margin.
On the BB debate, i know anything other than BB is awesome at 10 seems to be getting shouted down now but I would love to see a back three of
11. Ioane 14. Smith 15. BBWith another 10 in to run the backline. Whether that 10 is Mounga or they convince Cruden to come back it doesn't matter.
BB getting more space at the back and injecting himself at first receiver would be even more lethal.Our backs as a unit at the moment seem to be dangerous from broken play or on the counter but we suffer when there is a more structured defence with passes going behind and players being flat footed. We rely heavily on Ioane to use his gas for set piece moves and it is often guys like BBBR making a half break or offload that get us into that unstructured play that we score off.
BB scoring 4 tries doesn't really change that.Anyway just like Akira getting a game i don't see them moving BB to 15 so we can forget about it.
Back on the game, Harris is serious deadwood in this team his lineout throwing is a liability that threatens to take our lineout back to the bad old days when he is on.
Thought that non try off the Ardie knock on was bullshit. Not clear and obvious enough to take it all that way back IMO. Maybe the TMO was annoyed they have been told to stop the constant "check check " crap in open play that he decided he would stick his nose in wherever he could.
Edit: the formatting seems to have messed with my numbers. BB to 15 not 13.
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@taniwharugby jesus, Marshall actually disagreed with a call that went against the ABs?
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@rancid-schnitzel I really liked the way he remained composed when he got pulled down short of the line. He tried to see if he could reach out, decided he couldn't, then made sure the ball was there for quick recycling. Just another good basic decision and he made it look easy. I suspect other players would have tried harder to get to the line and end up killing the move.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
I think Goodhue is awesome. A few iffy things last night, but he just looks class. Considering his age and lack of experience I think we have alot to look forward to in the future.
I’ll never forget watching Goodhue and Jordie Barrett play 12-13 for a season of club rugby a couple of seasons back, maybe the 2 best players I’ve ever seen at that level.
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@rancid-schnitzel I'd be happy if ALB and Goodhue turns out to be our long-term midfield.
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@crazy-horse said in Bledisloe II:
@rancid-schnitzel I really liked the way he remained composed when he got pulled down short of the line. He tried to see if he could reach out, decided he couldn't, then made sure the ball was there for quick recycling. Just another good basic decision and he made it look easy. I suspect other players would have tried harder to get to the line and end up killing the move.
Yep, that might not seem like a big deal to some but it shows maturity and composure beyond his years. He's just a class act all round.
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@siam said in Bledisloe II:
Shit I hope there's some way Pinetree can watch Brodie play. We've had so many outstanding locks over the years but jesus the shit Brodie does all over the paddock blows my mind
Wayne Barnes makes me think of Stuart Broad, usual pedantry at times but it works and his attention to ruck cleanouts was welcomed
Is Dane HP, BFA lite? That's a compliment
I thought the RM is better than BB banter was bored preselection fern trash talk.
Jesus, just leave Barrett there. He's our number 10 till 2020 at least. Play RM at 10 if injury strikes the incumbent and leave DM with 20 something on his back for all games. SimplesYay Bledisloe!
I think RM should get way more game time than just after a BB injury. He needs the game time to get used to test level rugby and get the confidence. Start him in the Argie game in Nelson, as well as in the away game in Buenos Aires. The games against Japan and Italy. If BB goes down in the RWC, I want RM to have played enough minutes in the 10 jersey.
So giving starts to RM is not about BB not deserving them, but about getting RM the experience he needs to take over when required.
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@stargazer well shit of course he needs gametime and like all 2nd bests he'll get that against weaker opposition, both starting and subbing.
My reference was the hierarchy for RWC.
Or maybe I was advocating a cunning 1976 strategy where the incumbents play every game for 80 minutes till we lose one...
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
You reckon Carter was tearing up defences in the first 30?He had usually plotted three penalties, two of which were pretty tough.
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@rotated said in Bledisloe II:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
You reckon Carter was tearing up defences in the first 30?He had usually plotted three penalties, two of which were pretty tough.
How is that tearing up defences?
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@pukunui I was thinking the same thing regarding BB at 15, it was a pity Cruden didn't hang around and see if he could regain form and fitness, those two in tandem and in form would cut teams to pieces, well TBF BB is cutting the Wallabies to pieces on his own, but it would have been nice.
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@stargazer is a balancing act getting the development right (which includes playing in high intensity games) vs playing the best team without burning them out.
PLenty were critical of the Cartels inability to devlop a good back up for DC in 2011, whereas I thought they had been, was just none were really up to it, and TBF, we ended up coping (just)
RM will get plenty of chances pre2019, as will Dmac, short of a 2011 injury ward striking, they will serve us well
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
@rotated said in Bledisloe II:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
You reckon Carter was tearing up defences in the first 30?He had usually plotted three penalties, two of which were pretty tough.
How is that tearing up defences?
If you can't tear up the defence in the first 30 minutes at least be putting points on the board in other ways.
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given Cane has had alsmot as many head knocks as Crotty, maybe we need to look at leaving him out for a period too?
So that slots Savea firmly in the drivers seat (looked a bit more physical than normal last night too, although against a beaten Wallaby pack) but who is the next 7 off the ranks?
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe II:
given Cane has had alsmot as many head knocks as Crotty, maybe we need to look at leaving him out for a period too?
So that slots Savea firmly in the drivers seat (looked a bit more physical than normal last night too, although against a beaten Wallaby pack) but who is the next 7 off the ranks?
Last year Hunt played for the AB's (vs French xv) and Gibson was called up to train with the squad. Gibson has barely played this year though so Hunt would be most likely
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe II:
given Cane has had alsmot as many head knocks as Crotty, maybe we need to look at leaving him out for a period took?
So that slots Savea firmly in the drivers seat (looked a bit more physical than normal last night too, although against a beaten Wallaby pack) but who is the next 7 off the ranks?
There’s some young tyro from the Crusaders. Todd or something. He might be worth a look.
