Crusaders vs Waratahs
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@chris-b said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
Fuck you, Joe!
We need to clone Wyatt Crockett.
Loosehead prop who can play lots of minutes without getting broken and without doing ridiculously dumb shit!
However the explanatory calculations run, he'll get two weeks for that.
Wait, are you sure you're talking about Crockett?
Anyway, think of how ready to go Moody will for the Rugby Championship as he'll have barely played.
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@stargazer said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
Edited to add that I also didn't make the stills of Moody's elbow fend/hit to defend him, but to see what actually happened. The real time clip was way too fast and you couldn't clearly see the point of first contact and whether/where it hit Beale's head. That's what I wanted to see.
Cheers for those - the video looked horrible, but the stills seem to show it's arm/elbow to chest. Hopefully there are more angles to clarify at the judiciary
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@nzzp said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
@stargazer said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
Edited to add that I also didn't make the stills of Moody's elbow fend/hit to defend him, but to see what actually happened. The real time clip was way too fast and you couldn't clearly see the point of first contact and whether/where it hit Beale's head. That's what I wanted to see.
Cheers for those - the video looked horrible, but the stills seem to show it's arm/elbow to chest. Hopefully there are more angles to clarify at the judiciary
I’m sure they will use the video though, because it shows the striking and it’s impact. It was an incredibly brain dead thing to do.
He left it to chance whether he hit him in the head, moving target and all that.
Good on Beale for getting straight back up too. If he played dead like an Argentinian that could have been a red card.
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@kirwan said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
@nzzp said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
@stargazer said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
Edited to add that I also didn't make the stills of Moody's elbow fend/hit to defend him, but to see what actually happened. The real time clip was way too fast and you couldn't clearly see the point of first contact and whether/where it hit Beale's head. That's what I wanted to see.
Cheers for those - the video looked horrible, but the stills seem to show it's arm/elbow to chest. Hopefully there are more angles to clarify at the judiciary
I’m sure they will use the video though, because it shows the striking and it’s impact. It was an incredibly brain dead thing to do.
He left it to chance whether he hit him in the head, moving target and all that.
Good on Beale for getting straight back up too. If he played dead like an Argentinian that could have been a red card.
Yes, incredibly reckless & stupid. He's an experienced All Black; no excuses.
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@kirwan said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
I’m sure they will use the video though, because it shows the striking and it’s impact.
Yeah hopefully they stick with the "intent" part of the process, and judge it on that. Its not about the result, but unfortunately too often the consequences of the action are taken into account, rather than the intent of the player.
e.g. "The player was forced to leave the field due to injury so we'll seek a longer sentence" versus "The play got back up straight away so it wasn't that serious - cut 2 weeks off it"
Someone made the comment earlier about Chance Peni on Dagg, but the resulting injury is completely irrelevant IMHO.
If he'd just run interference on Beale (again, several metres ahead of the ball), he'd probably be fine. Raising the forearm is where the stupid happens, and shows his intent was more than just a bit of niggle.
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@tim said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
Waratahs should be extremely pissed off by that.
Irritated, but if we're honest, that's not the reason we lost a game we should have won. We went away from what was working for us in the first half.
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@nepia said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
@chris-b said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
Fuck you, Joe!
We need to clone Wyatt Crockett.
Loosehead prop who can play lots of minutes without getting broken and without doing ridiculously dumb shit!
However the explanatory calculations run, he'll get two weeks for that.
Wait, are you sure you're talking about Crockett?
When Chris B said that I was immediately thinking of Crockett injuring himself in the last RWC with his flying elbow ruck clean out.
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Messam's against South Africa in 2013 would've had the Jaguares nodding in appreciation.
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@toddy said in Crusaders vs Waratahs:
Messam's against South Africa in 2013 would've had the Jaguares nodding in appreciation.
Wow. I just no longer know what is satire any more.
As an aside, have been watching some old AB SA games while exercising. Messam has been simply immense against him - a fair few saffer fans I know rate him, and I can see why based on his perforamnce against them. He was quality for a long time.
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That seems pretty light to me.
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