Bulls v Hurricanes
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@rancid-schnitzel BB came on for Proctor; not sure whether it was due to injury or to him being invisible and having no impact whatsoever. Although West can play fullback, I think BB at fullback and keeping West at 10 was a better option than BB at 10 and moving West to fullback. As Goosen had already been replaced by Lam (I can't recall him touching the ball at all), and they only had Booth left on the bench, there were no other options.
Mind you, when Blade Thomson went off injured, they brought on Booth. Not sure why they subbed Evans so early as he was one of the few players playing really well.
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@Stargazer I thought BB came on for Jules? Regardless, I don't agree with keeping West at 10. The AB 10 and world player of the year two years running should have been given the reigns to close out the game. As it was, a poorly executed chip from West cost us the match.
Agree with @Tim, I also suspect Plumtree was the brains. Boyd managed to get the Lions relegated before his success in Super rugby with Plumtrre next to him.
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@no-quarter said in Bulls v Hurricanes:
@Stargazer I thought BB came on for Jules? Regardless, I don't agree with keeping West at 10. The AB 10 and world player of the year two years running should have been given the reigns to close out the game. As it was, a poorly executed chip from West cost us the match.
Agree with @Tim, I also suspect Plumtree was the brains. Boyd managed to get the Lions relegated before his success in Super rugby with Plumtrre next to him.
Sorry, yes, you're right, but that doesn't change the fact that they didn't have any other options. It was either West or BB at 10 and the other at 15.
I also find it an odd thing to say that West's charged down kick cost the Canes the match. Ardie also made a mistake that led to a try; the fact that he made his mistake earlier than West, doesn't make West's mistake more costly.
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@tim what the hell was West upto in that 1st try
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@taniwharugby said in Bulls v Hurricanes:
@tim what the hell was West upto in that 1st try
Yeah bloody hell. Proctor had that covered.
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@rancid-schnitzel more that Savea had effectively made the tackle, that West needed to drift out and just be in the space, if Savea falls off at that point its on him.
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@winger said in Bulls v Hurricanes:
@stargazer said in Bulls v Hurricanes:
@mencey Because he's still better than Garden-Bachop and BB hadn't played any preseason game. No doubt, BB will start next game.
On NPC form last year JGB was very good. After a no better than adequate 2016 NPC. He was a key player in the Canterbury thrashing
Yes, that's for sure. But his NPC form was not confirmed by the Maori tour where he was very poor against the French Barbarians. I hope this not just an off day for him.
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What on earth was with the kicking? Anytime they created space or made a break, the Canes kicked the fucking ball away, man it was frustrating to watch. Shields ends up in massive open ground with an overlap, so puts in a kick...kinda makes you wonder what would've happened all those times he's dropped it.
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@unite said in Bulls v Hurricanes:
@tim said in Bulls v Hurricanes:
Some really odd selections in that game. I've suspected that Plumtree was the real brains in the coaching team. Boyd was pretty poor with Wellington, wasn't he?
Isn’t Plumtree still the assistant coach?
Yup. Forwards coach according to Wikipedia
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@canefan said in Bulls v Hurricanes:
@unite said in Bulls v Hurricanes:
@tim said in Bulls v Hurricanes:
Some really odd selections in that game. I've suspected that Plumtree was the real brains in the coaching team. Boyd was pretty poor with Wellington, wasn't he?
Isn’t Plumtree still the assistant coach?
Yup. Forwards coach according to Wikipedia
Weird, I was certain he was leaving/had left. But google tells me the opposite, that he'll likely take over from Boyd soon. I must be getting old..
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@No-Quarter I think he was framed as a contender for the landers gig? And def gets mentions about offshore opportunities. But awesome to see him take over next season.
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Finally got around to watching this.
Disappointing result and some very disappointing performances but there is enough there that a few tweaks to the starting 15 should sort things out.
I actually thought Rasta was really good, just a shame the video ref was kak.
JSav is done by the looks, we need the Barrett boys in and starting ASAP. That replacement hooker had an absolute nightmare start, seemed to me about where the game turned. Was Ardie injured or just tired?
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The Hurricanes just could not cope with the Snyman - De Jager combination in midfield. The latter tore holes at will in the Canes defense which was incredibly static and missed too many tackles.
I rate Gareth Evans but he is not an 8. Blade Thomson was rather good when he came in. The only ones who played to their reputation were TJP and BB when he came in. Laumape had some good runs but his defensive positioning is not convincing at times. Fifita started well with a barnstorming run than quickly faded. Lousi was strong throughout but was pinched for a stupid retaliation.
The scrum was solid till Smith was concussed. Eves was dominated by his opposite prop and then demolished when he switched to tighthead. The Canes need JTA back very quickly.
