All Blacks vs Boks
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Boks:
So Sops to 10, BB to 15 and Dmac to 14?
Why have a midget as a winger? He really only is a FB at this point of time. He needs space to operate.
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@Virgil said in All Blacks vs Boks:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Boks:
@pukunui BB could have scored it, but I guess he thought NMS coulda got closer to posts than him....IF another wing is playing they don't anticipate the intercept to use thier pace to score.
Yes speed is great but isn't everything.
NMS laboured to the corner when scoring his try though, seems to lack explosive pace
He made hard work of both tries. I don't know if his injuries have him down on pace but right now I'd prefer Naholo or Seta on the wing. Maybe Savea too.
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I think I am moving into the camp that Ardie does not bring enough size. Just wondering if behind kaino, squire and Cane that Fafita can do more that what Ardie does. Not for moving backwards and advocating Todd. If your 29 odd and haven't cemented a place as an AB there is something missing.
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@broughie said in All Blacks vs Boks:
I think I am moving into the camp that Ardie does not bring enough size. Just wondering if behind kaino, squire and Cane that Fafita can do more that what Ardie does. Not for moving backwards and advocating Todd. If your 29 odd and haven't cemented a place as an AB there is something missing.
Yeah Brad Thorn!
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@Rapido is just another example where the rules are unecessarily complicated, either get rid of the quick tap all together or uncomplicate it by say a quick tap must be at least 1m directly behind the scrum where penalty awarded and maybe a little latitude for width.
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Just had a look at the replay.
Smith takes the tap at Owens' feet. Which I'm pretty sure you're allowed to do under the laws.
Edit: to further expand, he didn't move away from the mark, he moved towards the referee.
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@Siam said in All Blacks vs Boks:
Yeah Brad Thorn!
He'd made the Aussie League team a lot younger than 28 and didn't take that long to crack the ABs after he changed codes, considering how much technical stuff he had to learn.
Joe Stanley would be a much better example of a guy who cracked it really late.
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@broughie No I just think putting an arbitrary age restriction on a current AB, (who would've been capped again this past fortnight but for a broken hand - already with 8 caps) is fucking dumb talk - fanboy or not!
Hope the coaches know the "29 years is too old" rule for selection
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@Chester-Draws Buncey too
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@broughie said in All Blacks vs Boks:
f your 29 odd and haven't cemented a place as an AB there is something missing.
Or, if you can only play in Richie's position and you are not Richie/AB captain, then you are not Richie.
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@Hooroo Loosehead is still an issue. Am not so concerned about tighthead as come 2019, we will have great quality in Franks, Laulala and Moli. Crockett will be 36 in a couple of years time so we really need to find some guys soon and start developing them. Not sure if Hames is the answer but hopefully he will come good.
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I've rewatched the game sober and South Africa was for very large parts of that game, utterly dreadful. A complete inability to do anything off the lineout. A winger that wanted no part of the tackling aspect of the game.
That kick into the corner from DMac was a thing of beauty, pity the rest of his game was dross.
Hinton would be feeling pretty pleased with his commentary on Hames after that run on debut. The rest of the All Black forwards were simply superb.
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Was the shitty lineout due to Harpo or was it more a team effort? The first lineout was one of the most panicked and disjointed you'll ever see.
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I was actually wondering if some of the blame should be directed to Jantjes (who seldom seems to be a great backline manager to me) or whether he simply had no options. Considering the great speed of the Boks wings they didn't seem to use them very well.
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@broughie I am not so sure any more that DM needs space to operate. He did some clever(?) stuff in crowded areas up close and he has super quick reflexes. If anything, when he has time to think he makes errors. I think he is a 10 but too young and small at this level.
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@nostrildamus i don't think his size is a deal-breaker. he doesn't shirk contact, and usually makes his tackles. dagg is not a great tackler, and i remember pretty recently dagg himself standing up J Barrett one on one to score very easily.
it's a definite negative occasionally in contact, and with the high ball if the kick is spot on - but it's not enough to rule him out if the other parts of his game are good enough - and i think they are, potentially at least.
same thing with all players - topically, NMS - not being super quick and a bit of a midget himself. those are downsides for a winger, no doubt. but the good things he brings can outweigh them.